Bob Sacamano Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 8 minutes ago, Fielder Jones said: i have a feeling Sosa is the one that's gone, and they somehow hate what he brings and trade him for a completely nothing reliever Maton they actually probably value b/c he's LH Amaya has SS value. They will have Chase, Brooks and Maton who all can play SS. Amaya should go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fielder Jones Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: They will have Chase, Brooks and Maton who all can play SS. Amaya should go. They seem very intent on making Baldwin the utility guy. Chase, from all we hear, is not more than a SS-in-a-pinch. Getz loves defense and I think he'll abandon other things before he abandons Amaya's glove Another thing is Sosa is like our only launch angle guy. they havent crafted the team with that being valued, and he's playing a lot but it's seemingly a way of salvaging something before his contractually tight situation ends. i personally think sosa should play everyday when Rojas comes back thats even more non-SS to the mix Edited April 11 by Fielder Jones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 21 minutes ago, Fielder Jones said: They seem very intent on making Baldwin the utility guy. Chase, from all we hear, is not more than a SS-in-a-pinch. Getz loves defense and I think he'll abandon other things before he abandons Amaya's glove Another thing is Sosa is like our only launch angle guy. they havent crafted the team with that being valued, and he's playing a lot but it's seemingly a way of salvaging something before his contractually tight situation ends. i personally think sosa should play everyday when Rojas comes back thats even more non-SS to the mix They seemingly played Maton EVERYWHERE but SS in spring training...maybe only 1-2 games. They favored Meidroth and even Tristan Gray, who was mostly at the other 3 infield positions over the last 2-3 seasons. Ultimately, it's not really helping Baldwin at this point to be moved all over the diamond when he hasn't even mastered a single position. Nearly every single game, he's making one or two mental or physical errors, especially in the outfield. Maybe they're not showing up in the boxscore, but they're costing additional pitches and runs to our pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 I recall hearing Getz on a TV broadcast arguing that Meidroth can handle SS defensively. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Sox have three regulars with an xwOBA above league average: Vaughn, Thaiss, and Sosa. Sending the only young player of that trio to the minors for a sidegrade would be crazy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBooneLoganEra Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Now do Quero.....no reason not to. Give us something to watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 34 minutes ago, Jake said: I recall hearing Getz on a TV broadcast arguing that Meidroth can handle SS defensively. He’s been playing there in the minors. Colson at 3B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 7 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: He’s been playing there in the minors. Colson at 3B For just a couple of days... Venable indicated Meidroth, who is Chicago’s No. 8 prospect according to MLB Pipeline, would play all over defensively at Charlotte. Meidroth understands the plan but also enjoyed his 12 games at shortstop during Spring Training. “It was super fun, and I love short,” Meidroth said. “You are kind of involved in every single play, so that’s a big thing for me. I love defense. I love taking hits away. “So, yeah, shortstop was awesome here. We have a lot of good infielders so I’m looking forward to going down and working with Colson [Montgomery] and the guys down there.” https://www.mlb.com/milb/news/chase-meidroth-to-start-2025-season-in-triple-a-for-white-sox?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage “That's something that is going to be part of his challenge to get to who he wants to be as a big leaguer. So, we just want to give him some time to do that at Triple-A,” Venable said, per MLB.com. “He's a patient hitter and we don't want to change his DNA. At the same time, we know that in this league you can't let too many of these pitches in the heart of the plate go by.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) All the questions with Meidroth at SS relate to his range, overall athletic ability/dynamism/quick twitch-iness and arm. We will see soon enough if he can handle it at the major league level or not. He can obviously make the routine plays, but his arm is much closer to 45-50 than it is to 60+. For sure, he's probably better than Sosa or Baldwin at SS, but the next issue is who's going to play 2B if he's at SS....whoever it is, they need to play together practically everyday to build up their chemistry/rapport. Then you've got Vargas, Baldwin and soon Rojas needing at-bats on the infield. Edited April 11 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) As I recall, from a long interview with Garfein done toward the end of ST, Meidroth indicated that he preferred to play second base over SS, and enjoyed making the pivot from that position to make double plays. I am not sure he has the range and arm strength to get runners from deep short but that is only based on what I have read, not what I have seen. The reality is that the Sox will deploy him at any position as they see fit and he won't complain. Chase will just be happy that he is being being called up to the major league. Congratulations Chase. Edited April 11 by tray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 What’s crazy is that Meidroth might immediately be our best player. Hopefully Amaya gets the DFA because he has no business being on this roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) I am stating the obvious and the majority of our posters are tuned in and way more informed than me. 2024 MLB stats, here is where the Sox ranked and something anything has to change. The ship was sunk last year, and the survivors are adrift in lifeboats. Last in all of MLB 2024: HR, OBP, SLG, OPS, OPS+, BA, BB , Runs . Almost 100 runs less than the second to last team Tampa Bay Edited April 11 by Falstaff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 So wait MLB saying Palacios and Narvaez up. So is it 3 moves they making? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 13 hours ago, caulfield12 said: They seemingly played Maton EVERYWHERE but SS in spring training...maybe only 1-2 games. They favored Meidroth and even Tristan Gray, who was mostly at the other 3 infield positions over the last 2-3 seasons. Ultimately, it's not really helping Baldwin at this point to be moved all over the diamond when he hasn't even mastered a single position. Nearly every single game, he's making one or two mental or physical errors, especially in the outfield. Maybe they're not showing up in the boxscore, but they're costing additional pitches and runs to our pitchers. Runs and number of pitches are shown in the box score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) 27 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Runs and number of pitches are shown in the box score. When you make mental errors that are not officially assessed by the score keeper as official errors...giving up outs and allowing extrallowing on throws, eliminating double play possibilities, it's not tracked statistically but it helps to harm the confidence of the pitching staff. We saw this the last two years and are witnessing the same yet again. https://archive.fieldingbible.com/TeamDefensiveRunsSaved Already back down to 21st in DRS and falling by the day. Edited April 11 by caulfield12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 6 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: When you make mental errors that are not officially assessed by the score keeper as official errors...giving up outs and extra bases or eliminating double play possibilities, it's not tracked statistically but it helps to harm the confidence of the pitching staff. We saw this the last two years and are witnessing the same yet again. Like the missed foul ball the other day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 7 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said: Like the missed foul ball the other day Yes...CLE announcers very pointedly said "that's an error you just can't afford to make in that situation." Officially, it wasn't one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 16 hours ago, nrockway said: That's kind of like saying "I don't want the #1 overall draft pick because my team is just going to blow it". The value of "7>6" is pretty clear I think. The team gets an additional non-guaranteed, low-paid year in exchange for, like, 10 games. Pretty unfair to players TBH, I know they've tried to correct service time manipulation, but they haven't done a great job and this is pretty blatant. Maybe the deadline needs to be much later. Makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JoeC Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 13 hours ago, Jake said: I recall hearing Getz on a TV broadcast arguing that Meidroth can handle SS defensively. I don’t interpret that as any sort of endorsement of his abilities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 14 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: I actually like this move more so than cutting Amaya. Anderson is garbage. Not sure why Getz brought him back in the first place but it was only $900K. Anderson walks far too many batters to believe that he could even sustain last year’s mediocre performance. At least you still have a true defensive SS on the roster, albeit one that can’t hit a lick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 8 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I actually like this move more so than cutting Amaya. Anderson is garbage. Not sure why Getz brought him back in the first place but it was only $900K. Anderson walks far too many batters to believe that he could even sustain last year’s mediocre performance. At least you still have a true defensive SS on the roster, albeit one that can’t hit a lick. Yeah just play Amaya late if you have to. Never start him at SS or over Chase or Brooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Harold's Leg Lift Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 How can you not be romantic about baseball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 12 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said: This will give @Chicago White Sox a massive chub. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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