May 31, 2025May 31 2 hours ago, bobbydanks said: STOP EATING BIRDS LUIS ROBERT JUST SUCKS birds are about as real as the top 100 prospect we're going to get for this guy.
May 31, 2025May 31 So has anyone questioned why the great Ryan Fuller couldn’t fix the swings of our two most talented young players in Luis Robert and Andrew Vaughn? Oops… Edited May 31, 2025May 31 by WhiteSox2023
May 31, 2025May 31 44 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: So has anyone questioned why the great Ryan Fuller couldn’t fix the swings of our two most talented young players in Luis Robert and Andrew Vaughn? Oops… Well he is infallible just like the Pope so obviously everyone can be cured. That fact that you have to start picking on specific players as opposed to the entire organization and the whole system makes me think you are getting nervous.
May 31, 2025May 31 30 minutes ago, ptatc said: Well he is infallible just like the Pope so obviously everyone can be cured. That fact that you have to start picking on specific players as opposed to the entire organization and the whole system makes me think you are getting nervous. I intentionally picked on specific players? LOL… Luis Robert is our most talented player, and in his prime. This is pretty much irrefutable. Andrew Vaughn is our former 3rd overall pick, and in his prime as well. They are having the worst seasons of their careers. So I will ask again, where is Ryan Fuller in this? And if you want me to also link all the MLB team hitting stats so you can see that the Sox are pretty much near last in every recordable offensive statistic, I can do that. Should I do that for your reference? Edited May 31, 2025May 31 by WhiteSox2023
May 31, 2025May 31 11 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I targeted picking on specific players? LOL… Luis Robert is our most talented player, and in his prime. This is pretty much irrefutable. Andrew Vaughn is our former 3rd overall pick, and in his prime as well. They are having the worst seasons of their careers. So I will ask again, where is Ryan Fuller in this? And if you want me to also link all the MLB team hitting stats so you can see that the Sox are pretty much near last in every recordable offensive statistic, I can do that. Should I do that for your reference? So you believe that a coach isn't successful unless they help and improve 100% of the players? Some people are just stuck in their own dogmatic way of looking at things and refuse to look at any other objective views and thus refuse to learn. Oh yeah, not all players are open to learning from coaches either. Instead of looking at the six compared to the rest of the league, we know the Sox have awful players, look at the Sox rankings last year compared to the rest of the league and the Sox rankings this year compared to the rest if the league. I bet you'll see as a team they've improved in most categories.
May 31, 2025May 31 1 hour ago, ptatc said: So you believe that a coach isn't successful unless they help and improve 100% of the players? Some people are just stuck in their own dogmatic way of looking at things and refuse to look at any other objective views and thus refuse to learn. Oh yeah, not all players are open to learning from coaches either. Instead of looking at the six compared to the rest of the league, we know the Sox have awful players, look at the Sox rankings last year compared to the rest of the league and the Sox rankings this year compared to the rest if the league. I bet you'll see as a team they've improved in most categories. So who has he fixed? Let me guess — Vargas? Who else? Maybe you can claim Sosa but he was tearing it up in the last month of last season already. And yeah, of course the offense e could likely improve… it’s pretty easy to slightly improve from NEAR LAST PLACE in the entire MLB in offense! 🤣 Edited May 31, 2025May 31 by WhiteSox2023
May 31, 2025May 31 1 hour ago, ptatc said: So you believe that a coach isn't successful unless they help and improve 100% of the players? Some people are just stuck in their own dogmatic way of looking at things and refuse to look at any other objective views and thus refuse to learn. Oh yeah, not all players are open to learning from coaches either. Instead of looking at the six compared to the rest of the league, we know the Sox have awful players, look at the Sox rankings last year compared to the rest of the league and the Sox rankings this year compared to the rest if the league. I bet you'll see as a team they've improved in most categories. The Sox rank near the bottom of the league in stats like avg, obp, slugging, ops. They aren’t really improved much from last year in that regard. Now a lot of that has to do with the roster still filled with bad players, so if by improved you mean they’re 28th instead of 30th then sure, they’ve improved.
May 31, 2025May 31 sometimes when people get the runs they run too unfortunately luis robert is a baseball instead of a toddler shitting his pants, or is he?
May 31, 2025May 31 7 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: So who has he fixed? Let me guess — Vargas? Who else? Maybe you can claim Sosa but he was tearing it up in the last month of last season already. And yeah, of course the offense e could likely improve… it’s pretty easy to slightly improve from NEAR LAST PLACE in the entire MLB in offense! 🤣 I dont think its that easy to improve with the quality of players on the team guys like amaya and the hist of bad outfielders had been getting significant playing time. True they are near last place but last year they were in last place. By nearly all metrics they have improved. And with the quality or lack thereof of players on the team that pretty good. Unless you think that Getz has gone out and gotten better players, improving the hitting stats of a bunch of bad players is a pretty impressive feat.
May 31, 2025May 31 8 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: So who has he fixed? Let me guess — Vargas? Who else? Maybe you can claim Sosa but he was tearing it up in the last month of last season already. And yeah, of course the offense e could likely improve… it’s pretty easy to slightly improve from NEAR LAST PLACE in the entire MLB in offense! 🤣 Sosa, who was buried in AAA behind old utility vets and didn't play until they had no choice?
May 31, 2025May 31 I would like to apologize to @JUSTgottaBELIEVE. Robert is a fucking headcase and despite having all the tools and taking some steps in the right direction, he can’t seem to put it altogether. I remain adamant that as soon as we trade him, the other org will immediately figure out how to fix him and reap the rewards of a massive buy low. But alas, that won’t help us now in terms of trade value.
May 31, 2025May 31 13 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: So has anyone questioned why the great Ryan Fuller couldn’t fix the swings of our two most talented young players in Luis Robert and Andrew Vaughn? Oops… Are you even a Sox fan or a Cub fan here to gloat ? Meatball take as if coaches can make all poor hitters into good ones. You're just trolling at this point.
May 31, 2025May 31 13 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Are you even a Sox fan or a Cub fan here to gloat ? Meatball take as if coaches can make all poor hitters into good ones. You're just trolling at this point. I kinda lean more towards Robert being uncoachable/unwilling to change than it being the coach’s fault.
May 31, 2025May 31 11 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: So who has he fixed? Let me guess — Vargas? Who else? Maybe you can claim Sosa but he was tearing it up in the last month of last season already. And yeah, of course the offense e could likely improve… it’s pretty easy to slightly improve from NEAR LAST PLACE in the entire MLB in offense! 🤣 I’m happy for you that the Sox are bad, I guess. Isn’t there a PCA fan board you can go post on?
May 31, 2025May 31 56 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I kinda lean more towards Robert being uncoachable/unwilling to change than it being the coach’s fault. He's willing. There's no doubt he's made changes. None are helping. He's taking walks more than he ever did before. That shows he's trying to be a better player because he knows if he swings at pitches in the zone, in theory, that will make you a better hitter. So he changed a few things to see pitches better. Unfortunately those things have not resulted in making better contact or getting more hits or driving the ball out of the park. Sometimes it takes a while like with Vargas. The Dodgers couldn't find the way to unleash him and he already had a good approach to hitting which should've made him easier to fix. Sox gave Elko the same mission. Be more selective , tighten up your zone, look for pitches you can drive and he responded well to it. We can never know why some players can be fix especially a guy who showed in 2023 how good he can be. Maybe the 2nd hip flexor injury affected his hitting more than his running. Running is more natural . Hitting is a complex series of movements based on eyesight and reflexes ( hand eye coordination). You have to stride and shift your weight from back to front and twist your body quickly . Has to be hard on your hips and back. We've seen how hitters can corkscrew themselves in a vicious swing and even fall down. Robert just never seems to just cut loose his swing unless it's hanging on the inside part of the plate. Everything else he just kind of throws his bat at. There's no viciousness or anger in his swing now. Is he even still capable of that 485 foot bomb he hit in the playoffs ?
May 31, 2025May 31 1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said: I kinda lean more towards Robert being uncoachable/unwilling to change than it being the coach’s fault. I think it’s more this team sucks and he doesn’t want to be here and doesn’t care.
May 31, 2025May 31 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: I would like to apologize to @JUSTgottaBELIEVE. Robert is a fucking headcase and despite having all the tools and taking some steps in the right direction, he can’t seem to put it altogether. I remain adamant that as soon as we trade him, the other org will immediately figure out how to fix him and reap the rewards of a massive buy low. But alas, that won’t help us now in terms of trade value. No doubt this will happen. 🤣
May 31, 2025May 31 13 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: Yeah just like new teams fixed TA and Eloy and Moncada, right? Tim Anderson should just retire. Dude fell apart completely. Amazing how far Eloy has fallen. All he had to do was hit, keep his glove in his locker, and he can’t even do that. Moncada actually has an .811 OPS. He just can’t stay healthy, per usual. Always banged up. Edited May 31, 2025May 31 by WhiteSox2023
May 31, 2025May 31 48 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: Yeah just like new teams fixed TA and Eloy and Moncada, right? Those guys mostly fell off due to health…Robert’s elite tools are still very much present.
May 31, 2025May 31 27 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Those guys mostly fell off due to health…Robert’s elite tools are still very much present. Are they? Did his hip injuries hurt his swing possibly?
May 31, 2025May 31 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Tim Anderson should just retire. Dude fell apart completely. Amazing how far Eloy has fallen. All he had to do was hit, keep his glove in his locker, and he can’t even do that. Moncada actually has an .811 OPS. He just can’t stay healthy, per usual. Always banged up. Speaking of Anderson he was recently DFA'd by the Angels.
May 31, 2025May 31 3 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: I kinda lean more towards Robert being uncoachable/unwilling to change than it being the coach’s fault. Same with Vaughn.
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