Kyyle23 Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 The lack of starting linebackers was obvious every time the Steelers stretched the field horizontally, I really hope TJ is back Friday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 20 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: Yes - he had made some plays this year but also got beat a lot. This was his best game of the year. Yep, he gets burned a lot but this was truly his best game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 We should be able to fill out a fan poll that lets us change the game of the week. Philly Dallas is just a dumb game and if I have to watch a dumb game then give me Cleveland Vegas so I can watch Shadeur try and figure it out lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 1 hour ago, Tony said: It’s just insane they lost 10 in a row last season, and have now won 8 of their last 9 games 5 of those 10 losses were within a FG. They had some poor execution and bad luck down the stretch, where as they completely flipped the script in those same situations this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 Good Better Best hasn’t gotten old yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 Good day for the draft class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Quin said: Good day for the draft class. Loveland continuing to quiet critics, and Monangai a gem in the 7th...a smaller version of energy burst Pacheco late in the draft. Edited November 24 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 (edited) 3 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Loveland continuing to quiet critics, and Monangai a gem in the 7th...a smaller version of energy burst Pacheco late in the draft. He is improving, but Ty Warren still looms large. Edited November 24 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 Do people think the Bears will win on Friday and does anyone believe they will be healthier having not played some starters today to give them more time to heal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 12 minutes ago, The Beast said: Do people think the Bears will win on Friday and does anyone believe they will be healthier having not played some starters today to give them more time to heal? I think JJ and Kyler will probably play…but Philly will be pissed after losing to Dallas, and they are just a better team overall. Don’t love their chances 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 24 Author Share Posted November 24 5 minutes ago, Tony said: I think JJ and Kyler will probably play…but Philly will be pissed after losing to Dallas, and they are just a better team overall. Don’t love their chances We really need TJ Edward’s back or they’ll do same misdirection stuff Pitt did all day. but yeah it’s a bad bad matchup, will be nice to get Gordon back though. I do think we may be able to run on them, Dallas had some nice runs today. Run the ball and throw to Loveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 One more win and the Bears have a winning season. Pretty remarkable all things considered. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 3 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Loveland continuing to quiet critics, and Monangai a gem in the 7th...a smaller version of energy burst Pacheco late in the draft. + Ozzy stepped up and Burden continues to cement spot as WR3 over OZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 1 hour ago, Tony said: I think JJ and Kyler will probably play…but Philly will be pissed after losing to Dallas, and they are just a better team overall. Don’t love their chances JJ has to be activated or he goes on IR for the rest of the season. I believe they have one more game to decide on Gordon. Getting TJ back would be big, getting all 3 back would be amazing. philly ran into their own injury issues today on the defense, so you never know. The thing about them is their offense has been pretty weird, they shut down after they score 20, and a lot of times this season they have gone mostly scoreless after the half. It bit them today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 5 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: Good Better Best hasn’t gotten old yet Never gets old!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 7 hours ago, thxfrthmmrs said: 5 of those 10 losses were within a FG. They had some poor execution and bad luck down the stretch, where as they completely flipped the script in those same situations this year. The Giants are going through what we went through last year. Bad coaching does a lot to lose you close games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 3 hours ago, The Beast said: Do people think the Bears will win on Friday and does anyone believe they will be healthier having not played some starters today to give them more time to heal? They're 7 point underdogs on the road. So it's not some impossible feat, especially given how inconsistent Philly's offense has been all year. They looked great against Dallas for 1.5 quarters and then Eberflus of all people adjusted and they didn't score the rest of the game. My main concern is the line blocking for Caleb against that vaunted Eagles defensive line. We saw Love and Goff struggle a lot against them. The offensive line did fine today against the Steelers' very good defensive line. Watt, Heyward, and Herbig are all great defensive linemen. Trapilo absolutely shut down Herbig, who was one of the highest graded pass rushers by PFF going into today. They probably would have had no sacks today if Caleb just stayed in the pocket and threw to DJ in the middle of the field on that sack fumble TD. I've been worried that as the competition got better, we were going to start seeing more holes in Caleb's game. Because he does hold onto the ball too long. He does linger on reads. But we're 12 weeks in now and we've faced 3 really good defensive line groups in the past 3 games and Caleb's doing just enough to pass the test and we keep winning. I think going into this week, I would have given us maybe like a 20% chance of winning this game. After today and seeing how we held up against a pretty damn good pass rush, I'd give say my confidence level is up to maybe 35%? It's a short week, it's against the defending champs, and it's on the road, it's never easy to win given those circumstances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 On 9/5/2025 at 1:49 PM, Tony said: Winning 6 games will be a monumental under achievement for this group, doesn't matter the schedule. This isn't a Super Bowl roster by any stretch, but the floor should be 8 wins. They spent a ton of money on the offensive line, have objectively one of the best receiving rooms in the NFL (WR/TE) and spent the No. 1 overall pick on a QB last year. They won 5 games last year which included an almost unbelievable 10 game losing streak, led by totally unprepared coaching staff. Expectations need to be raised. Yes, there could be some struggles early as the offense finds it's way under Ben Johnson, but this is the NFL. Training wheels are off. Caleb got his NFL experience (both good and bad) last year. Of course there is going to be continued development, but it's go time. Time to start winning games, using the weapons on the roster, preparing to take the jump to legit playoff team next season. Said this on September 5th before the season started, and think it's looking pretty solid right now. Biggest takeaway for me is how much coaching matters. There were a bunch of games last year under Eberflus where they lost in such unbelievable fashion, literally found new ways to lose. Culture was rotten, team wasn't prepared, but the core of this roster is basically the same in 2025 as it was in 2024. And seemingly every close game they play this year, they're finding a way to win. I just don't think any of us could wrap our head around how big of an upgrade Ben Johnson/Dennis Allen/Antwaan Randle El would be from Matt Eberflus/Eric Washington/Thomas Brown. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 15 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: He is improving, but Ty Warren still looms large. It doesn’t look like we thought at the beginning of the season. Warren is targeted like Jones #1 receiver and Loveland is not Caleb’s first or even second option, and they have the same amount of TDs now with Loveland averaging more yards per catch. They are both really good TEs and it’s awesome to finally see Colston being featured in the red zone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 Friday's obviously an intriguing game. I honestly don't think anyone is that good outside of the Rams right now and the vibes in Chicago at the moment are a hell of a lot better than they are in Philly. I'm not necessarily saying I'd bet on the Bears but I like their chances more than the oddsmakers do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 1 hour ago, Tony said: Said this on September 5th before the season started, and think it's looking pretty solid right now. Biggest takeaway for me is how much coaching matters. There were a bunch of games last year under Eberflus where they lost in such unbelievable fashion, literally found new ways to lose. Culture was rotten, team wasn't prepared, but the core of this roster is basically the same in 2025 as it was in 2024. And seemingly every close game they play this year, they're finding a way to win. I just don't think any of us could wrap our head around how big of an upgrade Ben Johnson/Dennis Allen/Antwaan Randle El would be from Matt Eberflus/Eric Washington/Thomas Brown. I agree coaching matters - but Caleb is in year 2 - we have (to Poles credit too - cause I've ripped him) also seen pretty material contributions of late from this year(s) set of draft picks. Loveland, Burden, and Monagai have contributed more and more with each week and now we saw Trapillo play what looked to be a very solid game at LT (and against a good defensive front), which was nice to see. Turner is out for the year but 5 weeks in we were all up in arms over lack of contribution so want to at least acknowledge fact we have seen very positive momentum on that front - and hopefully that continues. We also have seen Caleb grow by leaps and bounds as an NFL QB this year. He is still flawed and leaving a lot out there - but from year 1 to year 2 - he has significantly cut his sack rate down, is now primarily working behind center (which he basically had never done in his career until this season), and is clearly starting to get through his progression(s) more timely. I'd also say while he has been accurate, his reads on those inaccurate balls have largely been the right ones - but he still doesn't have his feet and eyes totally aligned with those reads - which goes into timing and continued reps - but night and day progress and I think in year 3 we will see accuracy follow it (look at Josh Allen year 2 to year 3 as an example - not saying Caleb is Josh Allen). I think just this game alone - there were a number of balls where Caleb let it go and the receiver wasn't yet out of his break - that is a thing of beauty. The 2nd DJ Moore TD was an example - ball was halfway down the field when Moore looked up. Loveland's ball was perfect on that TD. There were misses too - but I look at the type of completion he is making now vs. a year ago. He's throwing guys open and anticipating where a guy should be - that is a big deal cause his pure talent is immense (doesn't matter if you can't learn to play the game - as we saw with Fields). But I've seen so many of these plays out of Caleb here the past few weeks - coincidentally it seems to coincide with him starting to trust his TE's more and use the middle of the field better. I fully expect he may have a game or two here where some of his young(er) habits and accuracy causes some issues...especially as he's about to go up against some elite defenses. But I also think these are very good learning opportunities for Caleb and the offense as a whole. I also don't think our wideouts are as used to the ball coming in hot - cause Caleb wasn't there last year and for those around Justin it just wasn't how he operated, so I'm wondering if some of the drops are partly related to getting more used to that and starting to align on the enhanced timing (which is better but also different). Little thing - but this offense has talent and is trending in right direction - but Caleb is still not there accuracy wise, wideouts are still not making some of the plays real good wideouts should make (and I expect Moore, Odunze and eventually Burden to be that)....and quite frankly they still have struggled to work the scramble drill right which I expect will come with more practice and awareness. Now taking all that in - this is a top 10 offense right now and that is despite our QB still working on his accuracy, our wideouts still making too many drops (and quite frankly not making enough of the tough plays), and the QB/Wideout scramble connection not yet dialed in (very few big plays have came from Caleb in scramble outside of when he takes off -this should over time become one of those situations where Caleb and the offense just punish teams on this scenarios). Now imagine when they start to get those things dialed in....which may not happen this year...but I certainly can squint and start to see the possibilities. I expect we'll have some rough weeks to come - but this is the start of something really fun. And on the defensive side - while this is a flawed defense, Dennis Allen is a professional DC and as they get healthier and work through more drafts - I'm confident in the defensive coaching staff(s) ability to get things right. It is pretty impressive what they have done with so little to work with given all of the various injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: It doesn’t look like we thought at the beginning of the season. Warren is targeted like Jones #1 receiver and Loveland is not Caleb’s first or even second option, and they have the same amount of TDs now with Loveland averaging more yards per catch. They are both really good TEs and it’s awesome to finally see Colston being featured in the red zone This - Loveland looks legit and is getting better and better each week. I still don't love taking a TE that early - but this wasn't a draft with a stud LT or DE sitting there for the taking either. Kmet has also been playing really well as of late. But this also goes to Caleb I think starting to figure things out more as a passer too. Use of middle of the field is up - he's using TE's a lot more. Progress is nice and to your point - at this point - both Warren and Loveland look like they have a nice career trajectory in front of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 1 hour ago, Rowand44 said: Friday's obviously an intriguing game. I honestly don't think anyone is that good outside of the Rams right now and the vibes in Chicago at the moment are a hell of a lot better than they are in Philly. I'm not necessarily saying I'd bet on the Bears but I like their chances more than the oddsmakers do. Rams are legit - if Stafford stays healthy (which I think is the key to their season) - than they look like the best team in football. That defense is OUTSTANDING and Stafford / McVay have everything dialed up right on offense. Great receiving, good running game. Very strong unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 7 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: It doesn’t look like we thought at the beginning of the season. Warren is targeted like Jones #1 receiver and Loveland is not Caleb’s first or even second option, and they have the same amount of TDs now with Loveland averaging more yards per catch. They are both really good TEs and it’s awesome to finally see Colston being featured in the red zone Warren is just not as explosive. He's a bull to bring down though...with 2/3 defenses shutting down Taylor almost completely in recent weeks, he has to step up but seems to be wearing down with the longer season. Loveland is more like a Kittle type IMO...a quasi or hybrid WR. Healthy Bowers is the best in the league...although McBride/AZ gets that honor this year due to health. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 I just love being back in Chicago in the winter and have the Bears be relevant. I'll take "not as good as their record" arguments over "they aren't as bad as their record". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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