southsider2k5 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, Harry Chappas said: So if the Colts are only seeing game day revenue there is no issue with events shifting from Indy to NW Indiana to the Colts and the NFL. Lucas Oil lease is up in 2038. Would they share the new stadium with the Bears... They really won't. They are two distinct markets. People in The Region go to Chicago for events. People in the Central third of Indiana go to Indy. I know we are in "Indiana", but we aren't really that close, and share no real connects to the Indy market. Every concert that goes through the big outdoor venues of Chicago (such as a Taylor Swift type at Solider Field) ends up at Lucas Oil a night or two later (or earlier). Indy hits the NCAAs hard, and I don't think that would change either. They host a Final Four regularly, and they also are home to the NCAA for basketball, so I doubt that would change. Maybe Chicago/NWI hits the rotation of Final Four cities with a decent domed stadium, but they won't take it from Indy. When it get to the point that Lucas Oil lease is up, they will either renegotiate and put money into upgrades, or they will build them another new stadium. Indy won't let the Colts leave Indy. Too much political power there too on the state level for it to happen. And honestly, the Bears get a good deal up here, it means the Colts HAVE to get a good deal down there, because they will NOT allow them to flee to another market. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Hitmen Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 10 hours ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Letting a profession sports team as popular as the Bears leave your state would be a colossal failure. Indiana officials would love nothing more than to poke Illinois in the eye by stealing the Bears from Illinois. IMO, they'd be happy to back up a dump truck full of money to the McCaskeys to make it happen. I still think a deal gets done for Arlington Park, though. The site is just too attractive to the Bears and I don't think money is the only factor in their decision. But Indiana could definitely happen if IL officials keep saying they won't even consider a legislative package for the Bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Hitmen Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago In other stadium news, the Royals have ruled out Overland Park, KS as a location for their new stadium. With North Kansas City, MO already eliminated, it looks like downtown KC would be the only remaining viable option. I suppose they could remain at Kaufmann long-term, but based on everything the team has said, I don't see that happening. https://frontofficesports.com/royals-stadium-plans-hit-suburban-dead-end-push-back-downtown/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Plenty of room between 33rd and 39th for the White Sox and Bears. Instead of using SoFi/Sci Fi futuristic architecture as a design predicate, use classic Chicago to inform the new design...i.e., use a border like the colonnade from Soldier field and take design clues from the Museum campus as well as from the original Comiskey park. Think outside the box or your own box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Hitmen Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 16 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: When it get to the point that Lucas Oil lease is up, they will either renegotiate and put money into upgrades, or they will build them another new stadium. Indy won't let the Colts leave Indy. Too much political power there too on the state level for it to happen. And honestly, the Bears get a good deal up here, it means the Colts HAVE to get a good deal down there, because they will NOT allow them to flee to another market. I wonder when the insanity of NFL stadiums "needing" to be replaced every 25-30 years is going to end? The turnover seems to be much worse than in MLB where the only 1992 or later stadiums that were replaced were Turner Field and Globe Life Park....and they each had their own unique problems. Otherwise, I can't think of an MLB stadium in the post-Camden era (which is now into its 34th year) where there's any hint of replacement. Renovations, yes, but not outright abandonment. At least Arrowhead and Highmark are over 50 years old, but lots of other NFL teams are really pushing to replace their late 90s/early 00s stadiums. Edited 5 hours ago by 77 Hitmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 8 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said: I wonder when the insanity of NFL stadiums "needing" to be replaced every 25-30 years is going to end? The turnover seems to be much worse than in MLB where the only 1992 or later stadiums that were replaced were Turner Field and Globe Life Park....and they each had their own unique problems. Otherwise, I can't think of an MLB stadium in the post-Camden era (which is now into its 34th year) where there's any hint of replacement. Renovations, yes, but not outright abandonment. At least Arrowhead and Highmark are over 50 years old, but lots of other NFL teams are really pushing to replace their late 90s/early 00s stadiums. What's the old saying? "Because they can" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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