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1 hour ago, fathom said:

Slater having to face another RHP.  One day closer

Dude, get a clue.  Slater for $2 million was a part of Getz’s genius new strategy — the new market inefficiency — giving millions to old, bad vets.  Nevermind that Slater can’t even hit lefties now, which is supposed to be his speciality.

But I seem to remember a poster on this site claiming victory when both Slater and Tauchman had good stats after not even 100 at bats combined and numerous missed games due to injuries.

Tauchman’s bogus small sample size OPS is dropping faster than The Rate’s logo.  Another waste of $2 million.

$4 million wasted on two old bums that won’t return jack s%*# in trades when the Sox could have and should have been playing any and all young players they have or could have acquired.

OLD and BAD will never be any sort of new market inefficiency…  PERIOD.  But…


Getz4Life!!!

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10 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Getz 4 Unemployment, but I wouldn’t even want taxpayers to pay for that.

Agreed.  His contract is for the next 3 years, and I don't see that changing, does anyone else?  Ishbia won't get the Sox until 2029 at the earliest, so it looks like we're stuck with Getz at least for the term of his contract.

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35 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Getz’s White Sox are now on pace for 50 wins, after rounding up…

Hell yeah, improvement.

At this rate, they'll be a .500 team by 2028.

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10 minutes ago, Quin said:

Hell yeah, improvement.

At this rate, they'll be a .500 team by 2028.

Not quite.

 

2023 61-101

2024 41 wins

2026 50 wins (projected)

2027 59-103  (Season 4 with 100 or more losses)

2028 68-94

2029 77-85

2030 (mired in mediocrity)

 

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2 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:

Because it's becoming clear that Venable doesn't have a clue.

Lools like another 100 loss season. Nothing will be done to improve the team in the off season again. When the team starts losing again in 2026 Getz will fire the manager and hire another unknown.

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58 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

I would not hate if Teel went back down for a bit.

I'd rather see Quero on most days, and Lee is a fine backup.

At some point you have to stop the recent carousel of sending people up and down. 

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26 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Baldwin by the way was pulled in mid-game tonight for Charlotte.

Sounds like Tauchman may be headed back to the IL list for a groin/leg injury yet again.

He had a really poor read on a ball to the outfield that glanced off his glove.

In theory, it was a broken bat that he couldn't hear/identify over the shouts of Cardinals' fans.

Injuries like this are par for the course for mid 30's outfielders, pretty much an endangered species anymore in MLB.

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12 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

Lools like another 100 loss season. Nothing will be done to improve the team in the off season again. When the team starts losing again in 2026 Getz will fire the manager and hire another unknown.

Sad that the wrong person is getting fired since Getz and much of the scouting and development are the ones that need to go.  

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IMO, the worst part of this team (and there are several) is the bullpen. They cannot throw strikes when they need to or keep opponents from hitting ball-busting late inning home runs.  Sox have been getting some decent starts even lasting into the 6th inning, then the bullpen blows it. Maybe Katz needs to go as do some of these stiffs in the pen. 

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1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Baldwin by the way was pulled in mid-game tonight for Charlotte.

Sounds like Tauchman may be headed back to the IL list for a groin/leg injury yet again.

Wait a minute…

Do you mean that old vet players like Tauchman and Slater that continue to have injury issues may not be the new market inefficiency that I was told it is?

I seem to remember saying all of this, but a certain poster disagreed with me…

What am I missing?

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3 hours ago, SouthChicagoBorn said:

Yep.  Bottom of the 9th, runner on 3rd, 1 out.  Just needed a sac fly to the outfield or a single and it would have been a walk off.  Then the pen loses it again.

When they announced the Sox defensive changes after tying it, I said to myself "hope this game doesn't come down to Capra".....I see he indeed was the batter in the 9th with that man on 3rd and 1 out.

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12 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Wait a minute…

Do you mean that old vet players like Tauchman and Slater that continue to have injury issues may not be the new market inefficiency that I was told it is?

I seem to remember saying all of this, but a certain poster disagreed with me…

What am I missing?

Can we not dig this mess up again?  

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1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

Not quite.

 

2023 61-101

2024 41 wins

2026 50 wins (projected)

2027 59-103  (Season 4 with 100 or more losses)

2028 68-94

2029 77-85

2030 (mired in mediocrity)

 

I was rounding up to +10 wins a year. This year being the ~50 win season.

So 2025 = 50, 2026 = 60, 2027 = 70, 2028 = 80. So almost there!

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41 minutes ago, Quin said:

I was rounding up to +10 wins a year. This year being the ~50 win season.

So 2025 = 50, 2026 = 60, 2027 = 70, 2028 = 80. So almost there!

   70-80 wins will be the landmark of being competitive in the Sox kingdom.  They will be a team in wildcard contention and then reality sets in late July and the trade frenzy happens to make Birmingham better.

 It will be a rebuild of the rebuild rebuild.  People think those really work.   Rebuilds don't work when an organization is bad. The rebuild for success doesn't start with the players just everyone above them.  

 You cab see this pattern in a few other organizations.

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37 minutes ago, kitekrazy said:

   70-80 wins will be the landmark of being competitive in the Sox kingdom.  They will be a team in wildcard contention and then reality sets in late July and the trade frenzy happens to make Birmingham better.

 It will be a rebuild of the rebuild rebuild.  People think those really work.   Rebuilds don't work when an organization is bad. The rebuild for success doesn't start with the players just everyone above them.  

 You cab see this pattern in a few other organizations.

The funny thing is that while Birmingham has a decent record overall, they have pretty much zero legit everyday position prospects.

They rode Smith/Taylor/Schultz to an extent, but zero outfield prospects and only Bergolla/J.Gonzalez have any real upside at all, and that seems more like utility infielder ceilings, at least for the moment.

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9 hours ago, greg775 said:

No managers truly have a clue. It's all about talent. Venable is just another guy, which is OK. If Ozzie would have taken a couple off season classes on how to deal with the media, he should still be our manager. In those pregame dugout chats he'd get himself in trouble over and over again. But cmon. Name a baseball manager who truly is special. None.

Al Lopez who I consider the best Sox manager of all time.

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1 hour ago, oldsox said:

Not in the 1959 World Series.

I’m still mad at him for not starting Billy Pierce in the Series but game 2 was the key game which I attended. The Sox were rallying in the 7th inning but 3B coach Tony Cuchienello was the goat of the series when he sent slow runner home with the tying run with no outs and he was out by so much he didn’t bother sliding.  
Lopez did make a blunder starting Early Wynn in game 6 on 2 days rest, at the time most thought it was a good idea, Wynn was the Cy Young winner in 59 but unfortunately he was gassed and the Dodgers jumped all over him early and the Series was over.

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