Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 12 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Vargas is head and shoulders better now than when he first got here. He has a shot at 20 HRs this season. There are some things on his swing he still needs to work on but he has the look of a solid 2 WAR player with a bit more consistency. Vargas specifically is achieving about where he was expected when the Dodgers traded him. Meaning his full season projections today are around where they were when the Dodgers decided he wasn't in their future plans and they'd seen enough. Zips, for example, had him at about a 1.5 WAR player then have him as so now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 10 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Vargas specifically is achieving about where he was expected when the Dodgers traded him. Meaning his full season projections today are around where they were when the Dodgers decided he wasn't in their future plans and they'd seen enough. Zips, for example, had him at about a 1.5 WAR player then have him as so now. True, but even a broken toy that some kid in the US would throw in the garbage might be a prized possession to some kid in a third world country. That’s how the Sox could view a 1.5 WAR player versus the Dodgers. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeKreevich Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 37 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: The fucking problem is we don't have any future outfielders...just Braden. Can barely figure out how to get two catchers into the lineup and now we have way way too many infielders. No list needed to figure out that. This stupid franchise deserves to be contracted. Have you ever heard of an infielder converted to the outfield? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 In the words of Vinnie Duber " Power to the Peoples" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mataipaepae Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 (edited) 51 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: The fucking problem is we don't have any future outfielders...just Braden. Can barely figure out how to get two catchers into the lineup and now we have way way too many infielders. No list needed to figure out that. This stupid franchise deserves to be contracted. Wolkow?? Fauske?? Mcclain?? Zavala?? Edited July 31 by mataipaepae 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mataipaepae Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 13 minutes ago, MikeKreevich said: Have you ever heard of an infielder converted to the outfield? I wish they would let Teel work out there. He played outfield in college. Quero is the catcher and Lee comes up as the second catcher. Teel is your emergency catcher this way you get Teel and Quero in the line up and Lee on the big league club like he should be. Beni becomes full time DH 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 12 minutes ago, mataipaepae said: Wolkow?? Dude has a long way to go to be a guaranteed major leaguer. His strikeout rate is the stuff of legends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 59 minutes ago, PolishPrince34 said: Tauchman asked not to be traded. Has a daughter going through medical issues and his family is all lives in Illinois. Support network to help them out. Thoughts and prayers go out to the Tauchman family. I am so glad that the White Sox could accommodate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Solid return; let the kids play. I've liked Mead for a while but hes been bitten by the injury bug he needs ML PAs and he should get plenty on this roster; Peoples is a very interesting get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydanks Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 17 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: True, but even a broken toy that some kid in the US would throw in the garbage might be a prized possession to some kid in a third world country. That’s how the Sox could view a 1.5 WAR player versus the Dodgers. 🤣 You seem like someone who still throws their toys against the wall so outside of your expert opinion on that, what's your point? 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mataipaepae Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 12 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Dude has a long way to go to be a guaranteed major leaguer. His strikeout rate is the stuff of legends. No doubt. But still a future prospect for the big club. i was just pointing out he has that potential as a top ten prospect in the system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Ok I respect not trading Tauchmann if he requested to stay in Chicago to keep his family centered as they deal with any health problems. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 14 minutes ago, bobbydanks said: You seem like someone who still throws their toys against the wall so outside of your expert opinion on that, what's your point? The analogy should be good enough for you to understand. But I look forward to more of your drunken posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 10 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Ok I respect not trading Tauchmann if he requested to stay in Chicago to keep his family centered as they deal with any health problems. Even without that, I'm not super mad at keeping him around next year as well. He seems to be a team leader for the young guys. Something the last set of young guys desperately lacked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Tauchman is under team control next year and contenders may have been wary of his leg issues (which look apparent when you watch him running the bases) as they went into the stretch run. Did any team trade for a lefty corner outfielder? I think Jesus Sanchez is the only one who went to a contender and he wasn't a rental. Seems there may not have been a substantial market for his services this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 31 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: True, but even a broken toy that some kid in the US would throw in the garbage might be a prized possession to some kid in a third world country. That’s how the Sox could view a 1.5 WAR player versus the Dodgers. 🤣 I think if the Dodgers believed Vargas was ready to provide 1.5 WAR they wouldn't have traded him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 56 minutes ago, mataipaepae said: Wolkow?? Fauske?? Mcclain?? Zavala?? I wouldn't count on Zavala to do anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Jake said: I think if the Dodgers believed Vargas was ready to provide 1.5 WAR they wouldn't have traded him Yes, I’m sure the Dodgers regret trading away 1.5 WAR Miguel Vargas for what Kopech did for them in the second half of the season and what Edman did for them in the postseason on the way to their World Series. Is this a serious post? Edited August 1 by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 1 Author Share Posted August 1 51 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Ok I respect not trading Tauchmann if he requested to stay in Chicago to keep his family centered as they deal with any health problems. Yeah it’s fine. Not a bad player either. But if you’re going to keep him with an OF of Benintendi, Robert (assuming not traded in offseason, and him to go with the kids in the IF, commit and get a starter or two, some relievers, and a power bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Just another courtesy trade to the Rays - 4th or 5th this year; or maybe an attempt to save face. Could he at least cut Rojas? Lollygagging can't be good for the precious clubhouse. Just a lousy trading deadline period all around: he got nothing seriously done. Getz is really poor at this aspect of the job. He just is. Yes, Crochet trade was fine; but the Cease and Fedde/Kopech trades were not fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mataipaepae Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 (edited) 20 minutes ago, baseball_gal_aly said: I wouldn't count on Zavala to do anything. I’m not either. But he is a top 30 prospect in the system and young still Edited August 1 by mataipaepae 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 36 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Just another courtesy trade to the Rays - 4th or 5th this year; or maybe an attempt to save face. Could he at least cut Rojas? Lollygagging can't be good for the precious clubhouse. Just a lousy trading deadline period all around: he got nothing seriously done. Getz is really poor at this aspect of the job. He just is. Yes, Crochet trade was fine; but the Cease and Fedde/Kopech trades were not fine. Honestly, I thought the return was pretty good for Slater and Houser. I just think he should have managed to make more trades — Tauchman and perhaps Civale, Wilson, and Altavilla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 2 hours ago, caulfield12 said: The fucking problem is we don't have any future outfielders...just Braden. Can barely figure out how to get two catchers into the lineup and now we have way way too many infielders. No list needed to figure out that. This stupid franchise deserves to be contracted. Fauske is definitely worth knowing about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 relating to curtis mead 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Garfein and Fegan saying we got more prospects coming back for Houser? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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