1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said:

Man oh man do I hope this guy pushes Rojas out.  In this lineup the new guys all have life, but Rojas feels like a holdover from last season, just never swinging at the right time or at the right pitches 

It’s also exciting just to see another player that could possibly have a future at only 24/25 years of age.  Rojas did not make himself flippable due to injury and poor performance.  He does nothing for this team now.  He’s a sunk cost.  Just release him and let’s see what Mead can do for the rest of the season.

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

Again, get Lenyn Sosa a LF glove and make room for this dude on the IF.

Agreed, but we are still like two veterans too many aren’t we?  Benintendi would have to sit more to see all the young guys.  Also, we would have to bench Tauchman more to get Danger Will in the lineup.  Can’t really platoon them both in RF since they are both lefties.  Damn Benintendi contract.  Like @Chicago White Sox has said, this is probably the next obstacle that needs to be tackled.  When will Jerry eat his contract?  He is blocking younger players that we would rather play.

1B  Mead

2B  Meidroth

3B  Vargas

SS  Montgomery

LF  Benintendi / Sosa

CF  Robert

RF  Tauchman / Danger Will

C  Teel

DH  Quero

Edited August 1, 2025Aug 1 by WhiteSox2023

11 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

#2 spot?

I'm worried about the Twinkies getting the #1 spot after dumping half the team.

7 minutes ago, sin city sox fan said:

I'm worried about the Twinkies getting the #1 spot after dumping half the team.

You should be worried about everyone, its a lottery so even if we don't win a game for the rest of the season we could still end up picking 7th. Its RNG.

I just simmed 10 lotteries on tankathon, the Sox got the #1 pick 4 times, and the Twins got it 2 times. And this is with the current percentages.

Edited August 1, 2025Aug 1 by T R U

9 minutes ago, T R U said:

You should be worried about everyone, its a lottery so even if we don't win a game for the rest of the season we could still end up picking 7th. Its RNG.

Yup. I'd be happy just landing in the top 3.

8 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

Yup. I'd be happy just landing in the top 3.

I did another 10 sims, Sox were in the top 3 in 9/10 sims. So assuming they still end up the worst team that seems to be a virtual lock.

Personally, I think there are 3 really great players at the top: Cholowsky, Emerson, and Lombard. Emerson is my current flavor, but any one of them would probably be the Sox top prospect immediately. So, I think anything in the Top 3 would be great. Because of the lottery penalties, I would prefer 7 to 4-6, but that could change. I'm not necessarily jazzed about LeBron or Burress.

17 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I have been saying and doing those things.  And yes, as I mentioned previously, I think there is real value to be had by acquiring certain post hype guys who were once high-end prospects (think 55 FV types) who haven’t been given extended runway.  I don’t have empirical to back up the claim, but I also think there are a lot of guys like this who never get those additional chances to fail because their teams were good and couldn’t afford to give them the playing time to work through their issues.  This kid is at like 330 major league plate appearances despite spending parts of five years at AAA.  As a rebuilding team we can offer up playing time and see if that final piece of development in the majors is all that is missing from him becoming a useful piece.  So yes, I think this might be a unique market inefficiency that we are afforded from being so bad.

There's no doubt that former top prospects get more chances than guys without the pedigree. The feels angle is coming from a guy who just said he's getting sick of people here having hope and being positive and basically calling us all suckers because the team is still bad and JR was fooling us all with his dangling the carrot philosophy. 

12 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

There's no doubt that former top prospects get more chances than guys without the pedigree. The feels angle is coming from a guy who just said he's getting sick of people here having hope and being positive and basically calling us all suckers because the team is still bad and JR was fooling us all with his dangling the carrot philosophy. 

"Toxic positivity"

49 minutes ago, T R U said:

You should be worried about everyone, its a lottery so even if we don't win a game for the rest of the season we could still end up picking 7th. Its RNG.

I just simmed 10 lotteries on tankathon, the Sox got the #1 pick 4 times, and the Twins got it 2 times. And this is with the current percentages.

https://www.tankathon.com/mlb

5 sims and I got the following for the Sox:

3rd, 4th, 6th, 1st and 1st.

Maybe the Pope can do a prayer during the lottery so we can get 1st

10 minutes ago, Quin said:

https://www.tankathon.com/mlb

5 sims and I got the following for the Sox:

3rd, 4th, 6th, 1st and 1st.

Seems to be about the same pace I got as well. Hopefully luck is on our side. 

15 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said:

As we've seen LA doesn't really have any special sauce, just a whole lotta money. Vargas isn't who I would have targeted but I mean it's hardly a huge win or loss for either team. Quite a few GMs and fans operate on the idea that you can only fleece teams in trades, that's not really how any of this works. Getz isn't a genius but it's not like LA is laughing as they are making that deal, they gave up a decent amount on paper and Vargas still has like a 1/3 chance to turn into a solid 2-3 WAR regular which is valuable.

Exactly. I like the way you phrased it that the Dodgers don't have any special sauce. The money factor and location allows them to get top domestic and imported players. 

When the Dodgers spend massive amounts on guys who get hurt or don't produce ,it just make the pennant race tighter rather than crippling the franchise from doing it again like the Danks money convinced JR to never pay for long term or expensive pitching contracts. 

Of course mostly JR always had excuses not to spend in lot of different areas . It was just BS. The older he got the more excuses he gave. 

Edited August 1, 2025Aug 1 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

10 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Exactly. I like the way you phrased it that the Dodgers don't have any special sauce. The money factor and location allows them to get top domestic and imported players. 

When the Dodgers spend massive amounts on guys would get hurt or don't produce it just make the pennant fact tighter rather than crippling the franchise from doing in again like the Danks money convinced JR to never pay for long term or expensive pitching contracts. 

Of course mostly JR always had excuses not to spend in lot of different areas . It was just BS. The older he got the more excuses he gave. 

The Dodgers do though have a terrific scouting system.

And I agree with your bolded part. 

1 hour ago, DoUEvenShift said:

Maybe the Pope can do a prayer during the lottery so we can get 1st

I'll take a stud player no matter the number slot

37 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Exactly. I like the way you phrased it that the Dodgers don't have any special sauce. The money factor and location allows them to get top domestic and imported players. 

When the Dodgers spend massive amounts on guys who get hurt or don't produce ,it just make the pennant race tighter rather than crippling the franchise from doing it again like the Danks money convinced JR to never pay for long term or expensive pitching contracts. 

Of course mostly JR always had excuses not to spend in lot of different areas . It was just BS. The older he got the more excuses he gave. 

I get that part.  The TJ virus can hurt a team. (maybe the real reason you can never have enough pitching) It is amazing the price for starting pitching that is only good every 5th day and the fear of them going past 5 innings.

JR has been burned a lot in FA.  But that is also due to scouting 

1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Exactly. I like the way you phrased it that the Dodgers don't have any special sauce. The money factor and location allows them to get top domestic and imported players. 

When the Dodgers spend massive amounts on guys who get hurt or don't produce ,it just make the pennant race tighter rather than crippling the franchise from doing it again like the Danks money convinced JR to never pay for long term or expensive pitching contracts. 

Of course mostly JR always had excuses not to spend in lot of different areas . It was just BS. The older he got the more excuses he gave. 

Dodgers got Kopech from the Sox and facilitated Edman moving over to LA.

Will former Sox Alex Call be their magic sauce this season for another title?

I really don't understand why MLB has a lottery. Tanking is just not a thing.  It really isn't.  Don't get me wrong - there is an advantage to having the #1 vs. #5 pick - but the reality is - the MLB draft is so much different than football and/or basketball where the impact being all the way at the top in the right draft just isn't the same as it is in other sports - especially the NBA.  

1 hour ago, Chisoxfn said:

I really don't understand why MLB has a lottery. Tanking is just not a thing.  It really isn't.  Don't get me wrong - there is an advantage to having the #1 vs. #5 pick - but the reality is - the MLB draft is so much different than football and/or basketball where the impact being all the way at the top in the right draft just isn't the same as it is in other sports - especially the NBA.  

PR purposes because they were getting so much negative feedback over teams tanking. 

4 hours ago, Quin said:

https://www.tankathon.com/mlb

5 sims and I got the following for the Sox:

3rd, 4th, 6th, 1st and 1st.

Look, no matter how many special kids are in this draft, the Sox will select 1 pick later.

I remember the Sox losing the "road to Rodon" but then he fell to them anyway. Kind of like the Rockies with Holliday this year or the Cubs with Kris Bryant

4 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

The Dodgers do though have a terrific scouting system.

And I agree with your bolded part. 

They do but they also spend money where other teams don't on players with some injury history and they buy them in bulk . So like this year they have lots on injuries but have doo much talent making so much money they hardly flinch. Their pitching staff isn't any better than the Sox this year. But it'll probably end up better because they'll have better guys coming back from injuries while the Sox traded their current best pitcher and their 2nd best starter, Shane Smith,  hit the wall or was injured or both and started to fall off. He'll be back soon but I highly doubt he'll be pitching long enough in starts to pick up any wins on his record. 

1 hour ago, Chisoxfn said:

I really don't understand why MLB has a lottery. Tanking is just not a thing.  It really isn't.  Don't get me wrong - there is an advantage to having the #1 vs. #5 pick - but the reality is - the MLB draft is so much different than football and/or basketball where the impact being all the way at the top in the right draft just isn't the same as it is in other sports - especially the NBA.  

I've also brought this up a few times and it hurts the Sox more than the small market teams because they don't get as much money in the draft or the revenue sharing benefits as other teams in our division .

47 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I've also brought this up a few times and it hurts the Sox more than the small market teams because they don't get as much money in the draft or the revenue sharing benefits as other teams in our division .

Valid point. Just another reason for them to start acting like a major market club. 

36 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Valid point. Just another reason for them to start acting like a major market club. 

Never under JR very possible under Ishbia's.  

Also that still doesn't give you the built in advantages of being on the West or East Coast. I will say though the Cubs do a good job of attractiing overseas talent or they all don't go to the West Coast. East Coast teams have favorable media coverage . 

I'm no expert on the league side TV problems that the RSN  are presenting but that also hurts the Sox like it hurts other small market teams . I'm just going to guess the Dodgers Mets ,Yankees and Angel or at least 3 of those teams make a whole lot more money than the rest of the league on their TV deals. Being in the Midwest in a 2 team city is worse than it is on either coast.

Edited August 1, 2025Aug 1 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside