WestEddy Posted November 14 Author Share Posted November 14 2 hours ago, caulfield12 said: what's the biggest new contract everyone expects just for 2026? $5 million $7.5 million $10 million Conditional upon trading Robert first? would kick the tires on Imai, but he will be too expensive as well...will probably get $125-150 million-ish MLBTR surmised Ponce at 2 years, $11M per to the Sox (by 1 of 4 writers). Kazuma Okamoto also strikes me as a not crazy option at 1B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 (edited) 5 minutes ago, spiderman said: Agreed. It's hard to disagree with the approach if they're on this 5+ year plan to become competitive. We're heading into Year 4 and they may lose 100 games again, probably 90 if it's better. I think White Sox management is getting away with not putting all resources into turning these around much quicker in the city of Chicago. This is crazy. They want to be thought of as some small market team with little resources. They're happy to play the fans as fools and not commit to building a team that can win and compete in a winnable division I'm a Sox fan, but it's hard to be treated like an idiot. This organization has been dumping on it's own fan base for decades. From JR, to Kenny Williams, Don Cooper, Hahn... even Garfien. Edited November 14 by Lip Man 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted November 14 Author Share Posted November 14 12 minutes ago, spiderman said: Unless he's going to be a high leverage/closer, I don't get this. Maybe for next season, it's not a big deal, but I don't like turning high end prospects into middle relievers. Taylor pitched about 63 innings this season. Maybe they want to ramp him up to about 100? That's Mike Vasil usage. 30 starts at 4 IP each is 120 IP. Maybe they don't want to guarantee a bullpen day every 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 (edited) 4 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Taylor pitched about 63 innings this season. Maybe they want to ramp him up to about 100? That's Mike Vasil usage. 30 starts at 4 IP each is 120 IP. Maybe they don't want to guarantee a bullpen day every 5. Probably. Unfortunately it’s just one more year of control as a bullpen guy likely lessening his value since he isn’t starting. It could be worse though — imagine if we got Cade Horton’ed? Edited November 14 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted November 14 Author Share Posted November 14 Another note about Edgar Quero trade interest from @JimBowdenGM of @TheAthleticMLB. #WhiteSox pic.twitter.com/h6ogcRKFCv — James Fox (@JamesFox917) November 14, 2025 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 More of the same as above. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 I kinda figured he’d be shopped. Previous GM acquired him plus we have Teel. Reallocate resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 https://southsideshowdown.com/3-white-sox-players-who-need-to-be-better-in-2026 Came across this yesterday. I only read the part on Quero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 Can I interest you in a lightly used Korey Lee 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 35 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I kinda figured he’d be shopped. Previous GM acquired him plus we have Teel. Reallocate resources. Trade Quero and Sosa for a good young outfielder and pitching wouldn't make me super mad. However, I do like Quero a lot. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 1 hour ago, PaleAleSox said: Trade Quero and Sosa for a good young outfielder and pitching wouldn't make me super mad. However, I do like Quero a lot. Getz has also publicly talked about the importance of having catching depth and I thought the plan was rotating Teel/Quero at C, but also at DH/1B. I don't think Korey Lee is anything more than a fringe backup - I hope they don't consider him as a viable option. If they can land a top 50 type prospect (like Quero is), maybe....just don't know that I like this or that Getz would be on this if he thinks it's important to have good catching prospects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 (edited) 25 minutes ago, spiderman said: Getz has also publicly talked about the importance of having catching depth and I thought the plan was rotating Teel/Quero at C, but also at DH/1B. I don't think Korey Lee is anything more than a fringe backup - I hope they don't consider him as a viable option. If they can land a top 50 type prospect (like Quero is), maybe....just don't know that I like this or that Getz would be on this if he thinks it's important to have good catching prospects If they put a high price on him and a team meets it, I would be happy. I (like many) think Teel is going to be really good. Edited November 14 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 3 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: If they put a high price on him and a team meets it, I would be happy. I (like many) think Teel is going to be really good. This. I either want a legitimate starting OF, or a really good prospect package. Starting catchers at minimum wage are not cheap, and neither should Quero be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 Trading Quero when his stock is down a bit is dumb anyway...unless you truly believe his power numbers are pretty much never going to improve much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WestEddy Posted November 14 Author Share Posted November 14 7 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Trading Quero when his stock is down a bit is dumb anyway...unless you truly believe his power numbers are pretty much never going to improve much. How is his stock down? He was a top 100 prospect who was a just below league average hitter in his first exposure to MLB pitching. He looks like a guy who needs a little coaching and pro reps to be a regular starting catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 4 minutes ago, WestEddy said: How is his stock down? He was a top 100 prospect who was a just below league average hitter in his first exposure to MLB pitching. He looks like a guy who needs a little coaching and pro reps to be a regular starting catcher. His WAR totals didn't exactly light the world in fire like Teel did in the second half. It's not that easy for a catcher SS CF to finish at -0.2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBooneLoganEra Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 4 minutes ago, WestEddy said: How is his stock down? He was a top 100 prospect who was a just below league average hitter in his first exposure to MLB pitching. He looks like a guy who needs a little coaching and pro reps to be a regular starting catcher. Saying his stock is down was probably the wrong way to put it. But he has yet to reach his peak value which is probably what was meant. Doesn't matter to me because I think Quero is gonna be an all star and they'll be fools to trade him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted November 14 Author Share Posted November 14 7 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: His WAR totals didn't exactly light the world in fire like Teel did in the second half. It's not that easy for a catcher SS CF to finish at -0.2. And that's why you keep Teel. He's the better prospect. Quero's most probably at the crossroads between prospect and backup. Hang onto him giving him backup reps, and you may kill his value even further. He's shown he can hit in the bigs. Every team has the hubris to believe their development system is better than the one they're acquiring from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 (edited) 14 minutes ago, WestEddy said: How is his stock down? He was a top 100 prospect who was a just below league average hitter in his first exposure to MLB pitching. He looks like a guy who needs a little coaching and pro reps to be a regular starting catcher. His WAR totals didn't exactly light the world on fire like Teel did in the second half. It's not that easy for a catcher SS CF to finish at -0.2 fWAR. bWAR was 1.2, so a pretty large discrepancy. The relatively weak power numbers are concerning to a number of people. Not seeing that it's obvious he gets a consensus Top 50 prospect/s like Teel obviously would...especially OFers or SS. Edited November 14 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted November 14 Author Share Posted November 14 4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: His WAR totals didn't exactly light the world in fire like Teel did in the second half. It's not that easy for a catcher SS CF to finish at -0.2 fWAR. bWAR was 1.2, so a pretty large discrepancy. The relatively weak power numbers are concerning to a number of people. Not seeing that it's obvious he gets a consensus Top 50 prospect/s like Teel obviously would. Nobody thinks the Sox should trade Teel. If other teams offer substandard returns for Quero, then keep him. I just don't think his stock is down. He'd have to do a lot to raise his value from where it is now. He can play in the bigs. He's not overmatched. He still has the ceiling of developing his power and defensive game with more reps in another system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 38 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: His WAR totals didn't exactly light the world in fire like Teel did in the second half. It's not that easy for a catcher SS CF to finish at -0.2. His defense killed his Value. With ABS coming, his league worst framing won’t matter as much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 https://global.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/46917752/mlb-free-agency-2025-26-passan-perfect-offseason-moves-dodgers-yankees-mets-tucker-schwarber 21 teams with their ideal off season moves from Passan. Sox Rockies Pirates Twins Rays etc. without one listed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 Would hate to trade Quero unless we are getting back a good piece. SP or OF with some power 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 I'd be onboard for trading Quero for a young MLB ready outfielder. It does feel a bit premature though, but I'd accept the logic behind it. I just really hope Getz doesn't package him with dead weight like Benny to get out from under that contract of his... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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