November 26, 2025Nov 26 That's a lot of cheddar and years. Not sure how he holds up through that. Good for him, though.
November 26, 2025Nov 26 Good for everyone around Don’t get me wrong, there’s a chance the Jays absolutely regret this…but at least they are going for it. Must be nice
November 27, 2025Nov 27 Can't spend even half that with debt overhang in the mid $100's... Sox spending just 30% of that on entire team (including Robert for now). Right now on target for roughly $62 million.
November 27, 2025Nov 27 This is the type of deal Jerry would lose his mind over...and he is right. This is BAD spending. Ishbia will want to make some splashes once he takes over...but if #3s are getting 7/210...the league is totally F'd
November 27, 2025Nov 27 Giolito will be a really interesting case once Big 3 off the market... Watch the Sox sign Bassitt or Quintana if their asking prices come way down. Edited November 27, 2025Nov 27 by caulfield12
November 27, 2025Nov 27 4 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said: This is the type of deal Jerry would lose his mind over...and he is right. This is BAD spending. Ishbia will want to make some splashes once he takes over...but if #3s are getting 7/210...the league is totally F'd There's a lot of money in baseball and it has to go somewhere. Props to Blue Jays ownership for being willing to spend and actually trying to win.
November 27, 2025Nov 27 "The Toronto Blue Jays could have one of the best rotations in baseball next season if everything works out according to plan, they could potentially have: Kevin Gausman, Shane Bieber, Dylan Cease, Tatsuya Imai and Trey Yesavage"...(which would make Jose Berrios their #6.) bluejaysinsider.com In February, Hank Steinbrenner said he might support a salary cap proposal as long as it contains a provision mandating minimum payrolls. MLB has had a luxury tax in place since 2003 but is the only one of the four major U.S. professional leagues without a salary cap. Edited November 27, 2025Nov 27 by caulfield12
November 27, 2025Nov 27 What I find funny about this was that killing time tonight looking through You Tube and i saw where Kaplan had a podcast up on it. I'd never give that idiot a moment of my time but the caption was that he said they signed Maton and that Cease could be next. 😆
November 27, 2025Nov 27 36 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: "The Toronto Blue Jays could have one of the best rotations in baseball next season if everything works out according to plan, they could potentially have: Kevin Gausman, Shane Bieber, Dylan Cease, Tatsuya Imai and Trey Yesavage"...(which would make Jose Berrios their #6.) bluejaysinsider.com In February, Hank Steinbrenner said he might support a salary cap proposal as long as it contains a provision mandating minimum payrolls. MLB has had a luxury tax in place since 2003 but is the only one of the four major U.S. professional leagues without a salary cap. The MLBPA will never agree to a cap under any circumstances, period. End of story.
November 27, 2025Nov 27 1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said: What I find funny about this was that killing time tonight looking through You Tube and i saw where Kaplan had a podcast up on it. I'd never give that idiot a moment of my time but the caption was that he said they signed Maton and that Cease could be next. 😆 Cubs fans are going to get frustrated...but they're around tenth in payroll and it's not like they stopped showing up for games since the last playoff window closed. In some ways, they're the victims of their own popularity as Ricketts can get by with second and third place teams. Not like the Sox are threatening them in any way, either. They DO pretty much need that ace though, unless they're really counting more than everyone else on Steele's comeback and Horton taking that next step. And Boyd just can't keep it up IMO.
November 27, 2025Nov 27 That is awful there has to be a team option of something? He's not that good.
November 27, 2025Nov 27 TJ initial surgeries usually don't hold for more than a decade or more. Not with how many high stress innings he has pitched since then...
November 27, 2025Nov 27 3 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: Feel like that’s going to be a bad one quick. Yep.
November 27, 2025Nov 27 4 hours ago, maxjusttyped said: There's a lot of money in baseball and it has to go somewhere. Props to Blue Jays ownership for being willing to spend and actually trying to win. Yep. Even if this turns into a bad contract, White Sox fans have been shamed into thinking every contract is gigantic because we have been silenced into submission by a tyrannical miser of an owner over the years. Edited November 27, 2025Nov 27 by WhiteSox2023
November 27, 2025Nov 27 This is why he got the money he got, from MLB.com. Not bad for a supposedly "mediocre" pitcher eh? The numbers don't lie: 1,106: Cease’s strikeout total since the start of 2021, the highest in the Major Leagues. Only Cease, Zack Wheeler (1,041) and Gausman (1,020) have more than 1,000 strikeouts over the past five seasons, a testament to their consistency and bat-missing stuff. Cease certainly has both of those attributes, making at least 32 starts in all five seasons and striking out between 214 and 227 batters in each of those years. In a high-velocity era where pitchers’ arm injuries have become commonplace, Cease’s durability -- coupled with his swing-and-miss stuff -- is highly valuable. Of course, Cease’s past stability is no guarantee of his future health, but his consistency is a large part of his $210 million price tag. And the K’s sure don’t hurt, either.
November 27, 2025Nov 27 It's a lot of dough but the guy has never missed a start. Consider how much money 'elite' pitchers like DeGrom or Sale were paid to barely pitch any innings. With deferrals, Cease is being paid $26mil AAV. Boston gave Sale a 5-year contract, $29mil AAV, and he only pitched 151 innings for them in 4 years to a 3.93 ERA after signing the extension. Rangers extended DeGrom for 5 years, $37mil AAV, so far he's pitched 213 IP in 3 years. Burnes just signed for 6 years, $210mil ($35mil AAV) and now he's 31 and recovering from TJ. This contract reminds me of what the Yankees gave Rodón which is to say I think it's an overpay but he's still a valuable pitcher who will almost certainly perform across the life of the contract. I figured he would sign for 1 year and get a bigger deal depending on his performance. I'm sure a lot of other teams were offering him that. Anyway, congrats to him. It'll buy a lot of frisbee golf. Edited November 27, 2025Nov 27 by nrockway
November 27, 2025Nov 27 1 hour ago, nrockway said: It's a lot of dough but the guy has never missed a start. Consider how much money 'elite' pitchers like DeGrom or Sale were paid to barely pitch any innings. With deferrals, Cease is being paid $26mil AAV. Boston gave Sale a 5-year contract, $29mil AAV, and he only pitched 151 innings for them in 4 years to a 3.93 ERA after signing the extension. Rangers extended DeGrom for 5 years, $37mil AAV, so far he's pitched 213 IP in 3 years. Burnes just signed for 6 years, $210mil ($35mil AAV) and now he's 31 and recovering from TJ. This contract reminds me of what the Yankees gave Rodón which is to say I think it's an overpay but he's still a valuable pitcher who will almost certainly perform across the life of the contract. I figured he would sign for 1 year and get a bigger deal depending on his performance. I'm sure a lot of other teams were offering him that. Anyway, congrats to him. It'll buy a lot of frisbee golf. Valdez Imai and Suarez are going to get paid...Michael King might be the bargain or could easily implode from a durability standpoint due the bulk of his career coming as a short reliever. Ofc that also comes without Cease or Valdez mileage.
November 27, 2025Nov 27 8 hours ago, nrockway said: It's a lot of dough but the guy has never missed a start. Consider how much money 'elite' pitchers like DeGrom or Sale were paid to barely pitch any innings. With deferrals, Cease is being paid $26mil AAV. Boston gave Sale a 5-year contract, $29mil AAV, and he only pitched 151 innings for them in 4 years to a 3.93 ERA after signing the extension. Rangers extended DeGrom for 5 years, $37mil AAV, so far he's pitched 213 IP in 3 years. Burnes just signed for 6 years, $210mil ($35mil AAV) and now he's 31 and recovering from TJ. This contract reminds me of what the Yankees gave Rodón which is to say I think it's an overpay but he's still a valuable pitcher who will almost certainly perform across the life of the contract. I figured he would sign for 1 year and get a bigger deal depending on his performance. I'm sure a lot of other teams were offering him that. Anyway, congrats to him. It'll buy a lot of frisbee golf. Sale went a good stretch without going on IL as well. Cease, being 29 now signing a 7-year deal, is going to see the IL as well.
November 27, 2025Nov 27 2 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: Sale went a good stretch without going on IL as well. Cease, being 29 now signing a 7-year deal, is going to see the IL as well. Well, they probably see themselves within a window and see two years of Cease as worth the contract.
November 27, 2025Nov 27 I think we really need to start accepting that most deals for good players are not going to age well on the back half. It just is what it is. Getting past that reality, I love this for the Jays. They lock in a #2 starter while being squarely in their window to contend. And let’s not forget the division they have to deal with. Free agent splashes/overpays are more or less necessary.
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