brijames1957 Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 How about Carlson at 2B, Cholowsky at SS, and Montgomery at 3B. That would be a really good defensive infield. You have B. Montgomery in CF and Teel and or Quero at C and that is a strong up the middle baseball team. Now find a 1Bwho can hit for power and a couple above average corner Outfielders and the Sox will be cooking with gas. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Here's the fun part. Let's say the worst case scenario happened, and the Sox fell all of the way to #7 this year. With the draft slots as they were last year, the #1 pick got a slot just over $11 million. #7 got about $7 mil. Even if you look at JUST the 5% overage part of the draft pool, this pick creates something like an extra $200k in draft pool spending without losing a pick, even if you have to give one dude the entire slot for #1. That $200k is basically being able to take an extra shot at the type of HS picks the Sox typically make after the 10th round, or at the end of the draft. Unless there isn't clear separation between the guys at the top, you HAVE to take the consensus best talent, and move on. And Emerson isn't that far away from being consensus best talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 47 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Emerson is a lefty too, correct? I feel like I almost lean that way, all things equal. All else equal, I’d be hard pressed to take a HS prospect over one of the best college SS prospects in years. The latter provides a high ceiling without a ton of projection & development, which is what makes the pick so valuable in the first place. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 44 minutes ago, brijames1957 said: How about Carlson at 2B, Cholowsky at SS, and Montgomery at 3B. That would be a really good defensive infield. You have B. Montgomery in CF and Teel and or Quero at C and that is a strong up the middle baseball team. Now find a 1Bwho can hit for power and a couple above average corner Outfielders and the Sox will be cooking with gas. I’m not optimistic about Montgomery in CF. Feels like he good be an above average RF with his athleticism and arm though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: All else equal, I’d be hard pressed to take a HS prospect over one of the best college SS prospects in years. The latter provides a high ceiling without a ton of projection & development, which is what makes the pick so valuable in the first place. This is where I land. It would be one thing if his ceiling was WAY higher than Roch’s, but doesn’t really seem to be the base at all. Going to be fun to follow all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 36 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: All else equal, I’d be hard pressed to take a HS prospect over one of the best college SS prospects in years. The latter provides a high ceiling without a ton of projection & development, which is what makes the pick so valuable in the first place. Brady Aiken vs Carlos Rodon. Don't over think it just because dude is more of a known commodity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: I view them as being similar (especially bat to ball skills) but different. Antonacci has more power potential, but is not nearly as selective (as Meidroth is a unicorn in that regard). Chase is definitely the superior defender. No guarantee either is the starting 2B come 2027, but I think it’s the most likely outcome at the moment. I can't un-remember Chase getting hit in the head with a pop up a few months ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 8 hours ago, SCCWS said: Hopefully, whoever gets taken as number i, is the start of our ascension from the ashes. July 13, 2026...a day for the history books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 (edited) 2 hours ago, brijames1957 said: How about Carlson at 2B, Cholowsky at SS, and Montgomery at 3B. That would be a really good defensive infield. You have B. Montgomery in CF and Teel and or Quero at C and that is a strong up the middle baseball team. Now find a 1Bwho can hit for power and a couple above average corner Outfielders and the Sox will be cooking with gas. Carlson is a better defender, thus you might want to keep him at SS; on the other hand, there are a lot more left-handed hitters these days so maybe you want your best defender at 2b. I’d think, if everyone pans out, Colson moves to 1b (back issues and stuff) and Cholo goes to 3b. Assuming they pick him. Grady seems more like a 2b Edited December 10 by nrockway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: I view them as being similar (especially bat to ball skills) but different. Antonacci has more power potential, but is not nearly as selective (as Meidroth is a unicorn in that regard). Chase is definitely the superior defender. No guarantee either is the starting 2B come 2027, but I think it’s the most likely outcome at the moment. Antonacci is more obp than he is power. So it’s an interesting description although it seems accurate. I think I wrote yesterday, Antonacci does have superior power potential but it’s like 15ish homers a year and 30 doubles at best. That’s a good player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 2 hours ago, brijames1957 said: How about Carlson at 2B, Cholowsky at SS, and Montgomery at 3B. That would be a really good defensive infield. You have B. Montgomery in CF and Teel and or Quero at C and that is a strong up the middle baseball team. Now find a 1Bwho can hit for power and a couple above average corner Outfielders and the Sox will be cooking with gas. Braden is a prototypical RF but he's playing CF for the same reason every middle infielder stays at SS as long as possible. Big arm...and good speed but not anywhere close to healthy Robert in closing the gaps in terms of topline sprint speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 3 hours ago, brijames1957 said: How about Carlson at 2B, Cholowsky at SS, and Montgomery at 3B. That would be a really good defensive infield. You have B. Montgomery in CF and Teel and or Quero at C and that is a strong up the middle baseball team. Now find a 1Bwho can hit for power and a couple above average corner Outfielders and the Sox will be cooking with gas. One would hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 1 hour ago, nrockway said: Carlson is a better defender, thus you might want to keep him at SS; on the other hand, there are a lot more left-handed hitters these days so maybe you want your best defender at 2b. I’d think, if everyone pans out, Colson moves to 1b (back issues and stuff) and Cholo goes to 3b. Assuming they pick him. Grady seems more like a 2b Grady? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 12 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Grady? Dick...I mean Emerson. The other guy that might go 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 11 hours ago, oldsox said: Roch is older than Carlson and will have had 3 years of college ball behind him when he signs. He figures to hit the majors first. Still, I'm really looking forward to Carlson getting his first pro at bats. I still don't understand why he was held back after signing. He wasn’t held back. None of these HS guys go to Low A in their draft year in most cases 4 hours ago, WestEddy said: I think so. If Cholowsky wants full slot or has a stumble. Josh talks about how he seemed to slump when facing better pitching last year. Nobody is getting full slot. That won’t be an issue. I think he’d have to tumble quite a bit to not be the pick. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 (edited) That was a similar concern with Vaughn coming out of CAL...difficulties with front line starters and facing elite NCAA velocity over 93 up in the zone. At least he seems to be a much better breaking ball hitter than Andrew or Luis Robert. Edited December 11 by caulfield12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 5 hours ago, spiderman said: Would they really go against the consensus top pick (assuming that he is)? From what I've read he's consensus but things can change quickly based on the new data that will come from the college and prep seasons. The good thing is that all three of the SS at the top right now are worthy of 1,1 in a weaker draft -- and Roch at the top right now makes it a strong one with them behind. Plus, I'd always prefer to take a position player 1,1 given injury and that downside risk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chitownsportsfan Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: elite neck width guy. krause would love him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 37 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: That was a similar concern with Vaughn coming out of CAL...difficulties with front line starters and facing elite NCAA velocity over 93 up in the zone. At least he seems to be a much better breaking ball hitter than Andrew or Luis Robert. He’s also a no doubt shortstop which helps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 If C Montgomery moves off of SS, try him in CF. He has that Robin yount look. Maybe a Spring look in 2027. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 2 minutes ago, GreenSox said: If C Montgomery moves off of SS, try him in CF. He has that Robin yount look. Maybe a Spring look in 2027. I don't know about his quickness or ability to get to balls if he was in center, maybe a corner spot with his power. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 (edited) 4 hours ago, GreenSox said: If C Montgomery moves off of SS, try him in CF. He has that Robin yount look. Maybe a Spring look in 2027. No bueno. 1B will be much better than CF or 3B for protecting his back. Corner OF at least a possibility. Edited December 11 by caulfield12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 (edited) 4 hours ago, GreenSox said: If C Montgomery moves off of SS, try him in CF. He has that Robin yount look. Maybe a Spring look in 2027. Montgomery to 3B would seemingly make more sense. Maybe Carlson moves to 2B or CF. Edited December 11 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 Learning that three things need to take place 1) Is Carlson as good defensively as billed? 2) Is Roch as good as hyped and the true 1.1? 3) If things play out right, who of Colson, Roch, Bonemer and Carlson profiles as the best outfielder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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