5 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

When you have no facts, this is what you need to resort to.

Jerry was main hardliners in the 1994 loss of the season. He's done it before, which is the best indicator on if he would do it again.

Truth… yet, I think you don’t have much room to talk when it comes to pointing out what a poster is “resorting to”.

Edited yesterday at 05:20 AM1 day by hi8is

3 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Gonzalez and Braden haven't come close to matching their milb power numbers in the early going

Have to have at LEAST 500 MLB at bats under a kids belt until you can really get an idea of what their numbers will look like.

6 hours ago, hi8is said:

Have to have at LEAST 500 MLB at bats under a kids belt until you can really get an idea of what their numbers will look like.

Yah, Willie Mays started out 0 for 20 something. Robin was worse.

11 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Jerry was main hardliners in the 1994 loss of the season. He's done it before, which is the best indicator on if he would do it again.

JR has admitted regret being the face/spokesman of the owners in 1994 because of the blowback he received. I would be surprised if he doesn't avoid the spotlight. I also wonder if the owners would even want him as their stooge, err, make that spokesman this time.

1 hour ago, Falstaff said:

JR has admitted regret being the face/spokesman of the owners in 1994 because of the blowback he received. I would be surprised if he doesn't avoid the spotlight. I also wonder if the owners would even want him as their stooge, err, make that spokesman this time.

I can’t imagine he has anywhere near the influence now that he had in the early 90s. Why would anyone listen to him?

JR is the only large market owner who desperately seeks small market subsidies/favoritism because of how he allowed the franchise to be totally run into the ground from 2022-25.

The recent CBAs have arguably been terrible for the White Sox. By the league's internal metrics, the Sox are basically the poorest and worst off team that is classified as too rich and well-off to get any help from the revenue sharing and competitive balance systems. If the Sox do well financially, they will have to share a bit with the poorer teams. If they do poorly, they are on their own. And they get the big-market penalties with regard to draft lottery, compensatory picks, international spending, etc.

1 hour ago, Jake said:

The recent CBAs have arguably been terrible for the White Sox. By the league's internal metrics, the Sox are basically the poorest and worst off team that is classified as too rich and well-off to get any help from the revenue sharing and competitive balance systems. If the Sox do well financially, they will have to share a bit with the poorer teams. If they do poorly, they are on their own. And they get the big-market penalties with regard to draft lottery, compensatory picks, international spending, etc.

Any change to the competitive balance system helps the White Sox. Teams with ridiculously larger fan bases than the Sox (St. Louis, Detroit) get those advantages and the Sox do not.

27 minutes ago, Timmy U said:

Any change to the competitive balance system helps the White Sox. Teams with ridiculously larger fan bases than the Sox (St. Louis, Detroit) get those advantages and the Sox do not.

I am not arguing the point, but that is the first time I have ever heard that Detroit has a particularly large fan base.....is that true?

3 minutes ago, wegner said:

I am not arguing the point, but that is the first time I have ever heard that Detroit has a particularly large fan base.....is that true?

90% of the State of Michigan and Toledo and parts of Northwest Indiana. When they are good, it’s a big fan base.

9 minutes ago, wegner said:

I am not arguing the point, but that is the first time I have ever heard that Detroit has a particularly large fan base.....is that true?

They have the entire Detroit metro to themselves, plus the nearest teams are Chicago and Cleveland

EDIT: wrong thread

Edited yesterday at 06:12 PM1 day by Jake

2 hours ago, Timmy U said:

90% of the State of Michigan and Toledo and parts of Northwest Indiana. When they are good, it’s a big fan base.

2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

They have the entire Detroit metro to themselves, plus the nearest teams are Chicago and Cleveland

Yeah, Detroit metro itself is a medium-sized market to begin with before you even consider the rest of the territory their fan base covers outside the Detroit area.

Detroit also gets a lot of fans from the Windsor area just across the border, a city of ~300K

A lot of the new proposed rules by the owners are potentially costly in their timing, too.

Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by Lukakke Appling

Detroit Metro is the 14th largest in the US.