2Deep Posted Thursday at 05:51 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:51 PM (edited) Getz also talked a lot about left hander Shane Smith and the possibility of him being the ace for the staff. Edited Thursday at 05:59 PM by 2Deep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted Thursday at 06:02 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:02 PM 12 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Yes he would. If he delegated the scouting and compiling the pool of players he was going to target in trade, I could certainly see him getting confused. But I'm the "Getz can do no wrong" guy. What do I know? I’m sorry, there’s no way he shouldn’t know how he bats. This is a guy with a decent amount of MLB At bats. I’m sure he saw his Venezuela League homers…..where has batting righty against righties. It would be great to give this organization the benefit of the doubt, but these weekly blunders makes it impossible. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted Thursday at 06:04 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:04 PM 2 minutes ago, fathom said: I’m sorry, there’s no way he shouldn’t know how he bats. This is a guy with a decent amount of MLB At bats. I’m sure he saw his Venezuela League homers…..where has batting righty against righties. It would be great to give this organization the benefit of the doubt, but these weekly blunders makes it impossible. That's the key to all of this. If they won 95 games last year, no one cares. If Getz had any kind of track record of success, no one cares. But they've been the worst organization in baseball since he took over. Yes, I know that was part of the plan, but the organization's "reputation" 100% plays a role in this story. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted Thursday at 06:17 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:17 PM (edited) 20 minutes ago, fathom said: I’m sorry, there’s no way he shouldn’t know how he bats. This is a guy with a decent amount of MLB At bats. I’m sure he saw his Venezuela League homers…..where has batting righty against righties. It would be great to give this organization the benefit of the doubt, but these weekly blunders makes it impossible. I remember your original post on this. You noticed the first time Getz made the flub in that hour-long Kaplan / McGuffey interview. I can forgive him but he basically outed the truth on the Robert trade, that many had already thought but couldn’t be sure of. That is the bigger story that this tells me. He pretty much took the Mets best offer (that had been rumored for months) and never had any intention of eating any part of Robert’s salary to improve the return. If Getz had much of a choice on the return from the Mets, he probably would have done a lot more research on the players and not made this flub. My guess is that the Mets offer was always Acuna, and perhaps Getz held out for the additional prospect (Pauley). The flurry of moves immediately after the trade and Robert’s $20 million being freed up is pretty much the proof in the pudding. Edited Thursday at 06:23 PM by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted Thursday at 06:21 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:21 PM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted Thursday at 06:24 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:24 PM 38 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Trying to deny it would have been far worse, but I guess after saying it four times that would have been impossible anyways. I still want to know how no one under him stepped up and informed him of his mistake after the first or second time he said it… Not to mention Kenny Williams is still mocked to this day for a couple of his dumber mistakes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted Thursday at 06:28 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:28 PM 46 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I saw this as well. Could be the case. But I don’t think that Getz truly wanted him over Acuna. Probably just mixed them up. Mauricio has 2 less years of control. Right ,it could ve come down to take your pick Mauricio or Acuna and you get the pitcher with either one and we'll pay for Robert's contract. At that point knowing he wasnt getting another $20M from JR he pulled the trigger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted Thursday at 06:51 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:51 PM 36 minutes ago, fathom said: I’m sorry, there’s no way he shouldn’t know how he bats. This is a guy with a decent amount of MLB At bats. I’m sure he saw his Venezuela League homers…..where has batting righty against righties. It would be great to give this organization the benefit of the doubt, but these weekly blunders makes it impossible. If Acuna turns into a productive player the end result will be much more important than some human mental errors when his answers to the same question over and over becomes rote. Its like the Murakami error. People arent used to Japanese names so the likelihood of an error becomes higher. I almost did it myself when I was typing his name it came out Munekami, a combination of his 1st and last name before I noticed it before I posted it last week. Usually I correct typing or spelling errors after the fact or edit to make a point clearer or word it better. I would be terrible on X. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted Thursday at 06:52 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:52 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, WestEddy said: Yes he would. If he delegated the scouting and compiling the pool of players he was going to target in trade, I could certainly see him getting confused. But I'm the "Getz can do no wrong" guy. What do I know? To be clear, you were scouring the internet for 1940's players who had changed to switch hitting during their MLB career instead of just saying Acuna bats right handed and this was a mistake. That's probably where the "Getz can do no wrong" moniker comes in play on this one. Edited Thursday at 06:53 PM by Look at Ray Ray Run 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted Thursday at 07:07 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:07 PM 13 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: To be clear, you were scouring the internet for 1940's players who had changed to switch hitting during their MLB career instead of just saying Acuna bats right handed and this was a mistake. That's probably where the "Getz can do no wrong" moniker comes in play on this one. Somehow he had to have been told he was a switch hitter. Would he really make an assumption that he was. It is an odd mistake to make multiple times. Not knowing he was a switch hitter would have been an honest mistake as opposed to thinking he was a switch hitter when he is not. It's Getz so not surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted Thursday at 07:16 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:16 PM (edited) 35 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: To be clear, you were scouring the internet for 1940's players who had changed to switch hitting during their MLB career instead of just saying Acuna bats right handed and this was a mistake. That's probably where the "Getz can do no wrong" moniker comes in play on this one. Tito Fuentes played in the 60's and 70's, as did Paul Blair and Bill Russell. You've probably even seen Eddie Murray play. He made it into the late 90's. You're welcome for the knowledge. Reading my posts made you smarter. I suppose you'll have to read my lifetime internet oeuvre to get above thinking Oliver Dunn and Vinny Capra are better at baseball than Shane Smith. And seriously, if Chris Getz drafted or traded for the wrong guy, that would be a problem. He didn't. Edited Thursday at 07:26 PM by WestEddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted Thursday at 07:22 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:22 PM 1 hour ago, Sleepy Harold said: When you have your own network, every spring training game should be broadcast. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dreamin Posted Thursday at 07:27 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:27 PM Another endorsement for Mune's responsiveness to coaching and hunger to improve Fuller. He says more velo, fewer splitters, and more pitch variety will be the biggest adjustments from NPB pitching, but they are able to give him "exposure therapy" with the Trajekt. Fuller credits the second half offensive success to more (and more targeted) game speed reps like that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted Thursday at 07:53 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:53 PM 48 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: Somehow he had to have been told he was a switch hitter. Would he really make an assumption that he was. It is an odd mistake to make multiple times. Not knowing he was a switch hitter would have been an honest mistake as opposed to thinking he was a switch hitter when he is not. It's Getz so not surprising. The guy signing off on trades repeating the same thing 4 times, no one correcting him, and then laughing about it doesn't give me a lot of hope for all of this "change" that we keep hearing about. It means over the course of time, either no one approached Chris to correct him, Chris is so isolated that no one could tell him, or that the entire group thought the same thing so no one would have corrected him. I am not sure why the first option would happen, especially since we know the Sox monitor their press for perceived reactions, so if was an honest mistake, you would think someone would approach him for when he said it at least the 2nd time, even if for some reason they blew off the first one. The 2nd and 3rd mean that despite moving chairs around on the Titanic, it's the same mom and pop amatuer hour that it always has been. I don't think we can make the assumption that this trade wasn't affected if the guy up top didn't realize exactly what he was getting, Did the fact Getz thought Acuna was a switch hitter up his value in the Sox eyes? Did they settle for a lesser 2nd piece, or not a 3rd piece because of this? It's not a leap of faith at all to think the perceived value of Acuna was enhanced because we thought he was a switch hitter. I know in letting this be a "joke", instead of having a media that asks some decent follow up questions to this, we will never get any next level answers, but thus is Soxfandom. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted Thursday at 08:01 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:01 PM (edited) 12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The guy signing off on trades repeating the same thing 4 times, no one correcting him, and then laughing about it doesn't give me a lot of hope for all of this "change" that we keep hearing about. It means over the course of time, either no one approached Chris to correct him, Chris is so isolated that no one could tell him, or that the entire group thought the same thing so no one would have corrected him. I am not sure why the first option would happen, especially since we know the Sox monitor their press for perceived reactions, so if was an honest mistake, you would think someone would approach him for when he said it at least the 2nd time, even if for some reason they blew off the first one. The 2nd and 3rd mean that despite moving chairs around on the Titanic, it's the same mom and pop amatuer hour that it always has been. I don't think we can make the assumption that this trade wasn't affected if the guy up top didn't realize exactly what he was getting, Did the fact Getz thought Acuna was a switch hitter up his value in the Sox eyes? Did they settle for a lesser 2nd piece, or not a 3rd piece because of this? It's not a leap of faith at all to think the perceived value of Acuna was enhanced because we thought he was a switch hitter. I know in letting this be a "joke", instead of having a media that asks some decent follow up questions to this, we will never get any next level answers, but thus is Soxfandom. This is the real problem. Apparently, Getz still hasn’t hired someone that will assist him with getting the basic scouting facts on players correct or will step up when he says something completely boneheaded like he did four freaking times in a row. This is seemingly no different than the Kenny and Hahn era where either no one beneath them was worth a damn to know that they made a mistake and/or they were too afraid to correct them to their faces. Just think about it — our GM said the same erroneous thing four times in a row in public and had to be called out by a Twitter post before he “corrected” himself. How did no one on Getz’s great new staff not notify him of his gaffe after the first or second time he said it? He said it four times! Edited Thursday at 08:04 PM by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted Thursday at 08:04 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:04 PM 2 hours ago, WestEddy said: incite 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted Thursday at 08:08 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:08 PM (edited) 7 minutes ago, Snopek said: incite As usual, BRUCEEE gets it completely wrong, with at least one typo at the minimum. Hey Bruce, why aren’t you questioning why no one that he hired corrected him? Who wouldn’t love a boss that can spout incorrect information and you don’t even have to pay attention or step up and correct him/her? Edited Thursday at 08:11 PM by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted Thursday at 08:10 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:10 PM 2 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: The dude needs to get healthy. At this point, if he can just pitch, even if he’s only a #4 or #5, the trade could be salvaged. Anything they get from him at this point should be considered a bonus. At least I hope that's how the Sox are thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted Thursday at 08:11 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:11 PM 4 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: As usual, BRUCEEE gets it completely wrong, with at least one typo at the minimum. Hey Bruce, why aren’t you questioning why no one that he hired corrected him? The age old tradition of reading a Bruce tweet then checking the handle to see if it's actually him or the parody account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted Thursday at 08:12 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:12 PM 2 minutes ago, Snopek said: The age old tradition of reading a Bruce tweet then checking the handle to see if it's actually him or the parody account. Does it really matter at this point? BRUUUCE LeVineLine is a parody on his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted Thursday at 08:18 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:18 PM 11 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: As usual, BRUCEEE gets it completely wrong, with at least one typo at the minimum. Hey Bruce, why aren’t you questioning why no one that he hired corrected him? Who wouldn’t love a boss that can spout incorrect information and you don’t even have to pay attention or step up and correct him/her? And media on a leash that doesn't challenge themselves enough to ask the obvious follow up questions, and instead just parrots what they were told. Good boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted Thursday at 08:25 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:25 PM If this mistake gets beyond the reporting of Getz's joke, that would be insane. I would like my sports reporters to report on the actual sport, not a blown up story that has no bearing on anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted Thursday at 08:34 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:34 PM 32 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said: Another endorsement for Mune's responsiveness to coaching and hunger to improve Fuller. He says more velo, fewer splitters, and more pitch variety will be the biggest adjustments from NPB pitching, but they are able to give him "exposure therapy" with the Trajekt. Fuller credits the second half offensive success to more (and more targeted) game speed reps like that. Has anyone here hit off a trajekt? Seems fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dreamin Posted Thursday at 08:52 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:52 PM 17 minutes ago, bmags said: Has anyone here hit off a trajekt? Seems fun The only place with public access is the Driveline facility in AZ. Costs $100 for an hour session, could be a fun add to a ST trip. https://www.drivelinebaseball.com/trajekt-hitting-sessions/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted Thursday at 09:00 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:00 PM 36 minutes ago, WestEddy said: If this mistake gets beyond the reporting of Getz's joke, that would be insane. I would like my sports reporters to report on the actual sport, not a blown up story that has no bearing on anything. How does not knowing the skillset of a player you traded for have no bearing? He literally did not know the player he traded for and admitted so on 4 separate occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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