3 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said:

They basically got nothing for him.

Seems like Getz dumped him mostly for the roster spot for Antonacci.

3 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said:

They basically got nothing for him.

Exactly. That's why it surprises me they never tried him in the OF to see if they could either actually use him, or build some surplus value. Mediocre bats who have no real defensive position don't really get much of a return. Honestly, it's the fact of the rest of the roster being so bad, that he looks decent in comparison.

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

5'7" 140? Holy crap!

Must have seen how Acuna is doing and tried to replicate it.

23 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:

No minor league stats yet. Was he injured coming out of high school? On paper seems like very little relative to a guy who can hit (even if he is positionless). Hoping to find out he got an outsized bonus to sign or something. I do get that Sosa wasn't getting the playing time here anyway but this seems like yet another Getz deal where goforward outbound WAR will be better than incoming WAR.

single A season just started, first game was 11 days ago

not sure what his delay is, maybe he's hurt

One of the best trades Getz has ever made

2 minutes ago, joejoesox said:

single A season just started, first game was 11 days ago

not sure what his delay is, maybe he's hurt

High school draft picks almost never play the years they are drafted anymore, with the loss of rookie ball post draft. If you aren't an early pick, you might not even break camp the next year, and instead play complex ball until a spot opens up. As a 17th round pick out of HS, I am not surprised he hasn't played yet, even if they see something in him.

Sosa was a one dimensional player who should have been a DH, but with Beni around (and the Sox not willing to cut him) he had no place in the lineup.

Some of that is on Sosa for not being able to at least be an average fielder and his baseball sense was lacking but some of that is also on the Sox since he was in the organization for a number of years and they couldn't help develop the skills he needed.

1 hour ago, Jake said:

TBH, I am open-minded to the view that it is near-impossible to teach the skill that Lenyn lacks at the plate. If the goal when acquiring young players is to prefer players who already have the difficult-to-teach skill, that's cool with me. But once you're looking at MLB production, I don't see much reason to put much emphasis on exactly how a given player managed to reach X level of production if X level of production is good enough.

I doubt this played a role in the decision to trade him, but I am aware of some data indicating some pretty brutal aging curves for contact/contact-quality on pitches outside the strike zone. That is, players do not get better at making contact at pitches outside the zone and their ability tends to fall off a cliff in the late 20s in a way that is sooner and faster than other hitting skills. So I guess one way to counterargue what I said above is that Lenyn, who really relies on production against chased pitches, has the type of game that is known to age really poorly. But I don't know how much I believe it and I doubt this was a deeply considered decision.

I am looking more at his baseball IQ in general, and the inability (or willingness) to find a defensive position he could play.

1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

High school draft picks almost never play the years they are drafted anymore, with the loss of rookie ball post draft. If you aren't an early pick, you might not even break camp the next year, and instead play complex ball until a spot opens up. As a 17th round pick out of HS, I am not surprised he hasn't played yet, even if they see something in him.

most/all of the sox 2024 and 25 high schoolers moved right into pro ball the season after their draft

this kid was drafted in 25, so he should be starting in 26?

edit: oh he was picked in the 17th round? lol

Edited yesterday at 07:16 PM1 day by joejoesox

26 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said:

Never knew Sosa was so beloved.

You know the dialogue here is getting silly when there's suggestions about trying him in the outfield.

2 hours ago, Ozzie for Manager said:

5-7 140lbs out of HS. Not a big guy at all. No stats anywhere. But at least it's a position player.

I would have shied away from trading for jockeys.

Don't like this move but at least Meidroth and his incredible production will continue to play every day.

3 minutes ago, wegner said:

Don't like this move but at least Meidroth and his incredible production will continue to play every day.

Just so were on the same page here, Meidroth was more valuable than Sosa last season per fWAR and bWAR, and remains more valuable so far this year through the same metrics.

Sosa can't even get on the field for this team, and was just traded away for essentially nothing in a move that is obviously "we were going to DFA this guy but might as well get SOMETHING"

That should tell you enough about Lenyn Sosa's value.

I think JR likes Cash Considerations even more than David Eckstein.

6 minutes ago, T R U said:

Just so were on the same page here, Meidroth was more valuable than Sosa last season per fWAR and bWAR, and remains more valuable so far this year through the same metrics.

Sosa can't even get on the field for this team, and was just traded away for essentially nothing in a move that is obviously "we were going to DFA this guy but might as well get SOMETHING"

That should tell you enough about Lenyn Sosa's value.

Meidroth hasn’t done much in almost 600 plate appearances to prove he should be a starting major league 2B. Perhaps the move should be for Antonacci to start at 2B and Meidroth move to backup infielder?

Edited yesterday at 10:18 PM1 day by WhiteSox2023

8 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

I think JR likes Cash Considerations even more than David Eckstein.

It's not much of a ... consideration.

4 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Meidroth hasn’t don’t much in almost 600 plate appearances to prove he should be a starting major league 2B. Perhaps the move should be for Antonacci to start at 2B and Meidroth move to backup infielder?

That was actually my point although I do think Sosa should've gotten more at bats mostly by DFAing Benintendi.

I am just amazed that they run Meidroth out there every day mostly at leadoff.

9 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Meidroth hasn’t don’t much in almost 600 plate appearances to prove he should be a starting major league 2B. Perhaps the move should be for Antonacci to start at 2B and Meidroth move to backup infielder?

Sosa hasn't proven it in 1,100 plate appearances. Meidroth put up 1.3 war in his rookie year, he has definitely earned the right to continue to be given an opportunity.

Sosa is a mediocre bat who can't play defense, its been 1,155 plate appearances, you know what you got there.

I am ok with this. If Sosa ends up being incredible, I will be annoyed. He just seemed so baseball-dumb.

Seeing a lot of prospects with extreme power profiles, then a lot of 'great fielders, ok hit tool, low power'. You'd hope the latter develop power, the former become well rounded.

Please god let it work at some point.

8 minutes ago, wegner said:

That was actually my point although I do think Sosa should've gotten more at bats mostly by DFAing Benintendi.

I am just amazed that they run Meidroth out there every day mostly at leadoff.

This is the only point I would agree on, Benintendi should have been exiled before Sosa.

I have no idea why this team refuses to send Benintendi packing.

6 minutes ago, T R U said:

Sosa hasn't proven it in 1,100 plate appearances. Meidroth put up 1.3 war in his rookie year, he has definitely earned the right to continue to be given an opportunity.

Sosa is a mediocre bat who can't play defense, its been 1,155 plate appearances, you know what you got there.

I wasn’t arguing for Sosa to start over Meidroth at 2B. My post was about Antonacci. I think the Sox should have tried converting Sosa to LF and sent Benintendi to the glue factory.

Edited yesterday at 08:20 PM1 day by WhiteSox2023

9 minutes ago, T R U said:

This is the only point I would agree on, Benintendi should have been exiled before Sosa.

I'm glad we could find some common ground.

11 minutes ago, Quin said:

I have no idea why this team refuses to send Benintendi packing.

We just gave up 4 years of a similar player at a much lower salary to do so.

a 17th round pick. you can't make this s%*# up. trading any asset away for nothing while Beni still has a roster spot. Everybody in the org sees how the Sox do business. It's a depressing horrific work environment.