17 hours ago17 hr 1 hour ago, tray said:No harm no foul if that turns out to be the case but never forget, Madrigal was the Sox No. 1 pick in the Draft....a bit different scenario.In the annals of dumbass drafting that one will live forever.
16 hours ago16 hr 4 hours ago, joejoesox said:Rikuu hasn't had anything left to prove in the minors since probably last year, happy they're giving him a chance, plus he's LHH and understands the strikezone, could be the poor mans Luis ArraezArraez was in the Top 10-15 for mlb fWAR a couple of weeks ago.
16 hours ago16 hr 4 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:No. They probably want him to prove he can hit in more than just 222 plate appearances this season. Gonzalez is still only 23 and can continue to prove himself in the minors.As much as I've stanned for Gonzo, he has a 1.261 OPS with 12 HR and home and a .739 OPS with 3 HR away. He's benefitting from that bandbox in Charlotte. I'm bearish on him after seeing those splits. Edited 3 hours ago3 hr by ron883
16 hours ago16 hr 59 minutes ago, Stinky Stanky said:In the annals of dumbass drafting that one will live forever.https://calbears.com/sports/baseball/stats/2017/oregon-state/boxscore/140047 famous names in this box score...see the two Sox number 1'sone pitcher for very ugly reasons
8 hours ago8 hr 11 hours ago, tray said:Credit where credit is due. Cali called this one.I actually did not. I just told @joejoesox that I liked his idea to call up Nishida because it was out of the box thinking that I hadn't thought about much. Great timing by him to mention it. I thought there could be a pitching move or 2 before Monday's game.
7 hours ago7 hr 13 hours ago, DirtySox said:He's not a top prospect. He's a fun utility spark plug guy.Fun fact, one of the only players in history to start in four consecutive season openers at four different positions.
7 hours ago7 hr Rikuu has consistently put up outstanding obp at every level of his career. He could be a fun guy to watch get on base and cause havoc on the basepath.
7 hours ago7 hr Feels like we’ve eventually looking at the following:In => Nishada, Hayes, & PereiraOut => Acuna, Grichuk, & KelenicIMO, Acuna is the one guy who definitely has to go. He brings some defensive versatility and speed, but is literally unplayable with the bat. I’m not optimistic Nishada’s game will translate to the majors, but he will provide a professional at-bat, gives you another option in the infield (really just 2B), and can serve as a pinch-runner. Ideally he’s used a role player who can start at 2B (or LF) against tough righties allowing Chase more rest. Long-term this spot probably goes to Jacob Gonzalez (or Bergolla), but right now Nishada is an upgrade over Acuna.The highlighted swap above still leaves you with a future OF crunch. Antonacci is a stud and the one guy who you can feel good about (developing defense not withstanding). IMO, Benintendi and Peters are the only other “safe” guys right now. While I eagerly await the day Andrew is gone, his bat is still around league average or slightly better against RHP and that plays at DH for the time being (Gonzalez could eventually push here as well). Meanwhile, Peters’ glove makes him a legit strong side platoon in CF even if the bat leaves a lot to be desired.That leaves a slog of RH outfielders (Hayes, Pereira, Grichuck, & Hill) and Kelenic for three total spots. I think there is a non-zero chance any of these guys could be DFAed in the coming weeks, but there are two who I think are more likely to stick than the other three. IMO, Hayes is the safest here for two reasons. First, they gave him $6M and I doubt they cut bait on that money this early. Second, while not great RHP, historically he’s not a true platoon guy. The other guy who I think has some roster staying power is Periera. They traded for him, he’s young & controllable, can fill-in in CF, and has the physical tools to be a potential regular. If it weren’t for health, he’d be with Peters & Benintend.That leaves one spot for Grichuk, Kelenic, & Hill. As many here know, I’ve been highly skeptical of Kelenic since the day he was signed. However, now that he’s up, I’ve also been willing to give him a bit of run to see if anything clicks before a better option comes along. That being said, I think I’m ready to cut bait even though his Statcast page shows a lot of red. His K rate of 50% over his last 11 games shows a player trending the wrong way and the defense leaves a lot to be desired. If the Sox feel Hayes & Pereira can handle the bulk of RF (at least until Braden is ready), then cutting Kelenic is a legitimate option.As for Hill vs. Grichuk, the decision becomes a bit harder to make and comes down to their broader role. Both are platoon guys who should only face LHP and both have been highly productive in such a capacity this year. However, Hill provides more “role player” value with his defense (including ability to play CF) and speed than Grichuk does. He also seems to be a big part of the clubhouse and I think cutting bait on him now would be risky. Sucks as both guys have earned their paychecks, but we can’t carry four RH outfielders and the tie goes to Hill for the reasons stated above. Cutting Grichuk is a move we may regret if Hayes or Periera can’t stay healthy, but think it’s right move to make at this time.
6 hours ago6 hr 17 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:Come on Chris, dump Benny!No way it's his decision, Branch Rickey III status or not...
6 hours ago6 hr 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:Feels like we’ve eventually looking at the following:In => Nishada, Hayes, & PereiraOut => Acuna, Grichuk, & KelenicIMO, Acuna is the one guy who definitely has to go. He brings some defensive versatility and speed, but is literally unplayable with the bat. I’m not optimistic Nishada’s game will translate to the majors, but he will provide a professional at-bat, gives you another option in the infield (really just 2B), and can serve as a pinch-runner. Ideally he’s used a role player who can start at 2B (or LF) against tough righties allowing Chase more rest. Long-term this spot probably goes to Jacob Gonzalez (or Bergolla), but right now Nishada is an upgrade over Acuna.The highlighted swap above still leaves you with a future OF crunch. Antonacci is a stud and the one guy who you can feel good about (developing defense not withstanding). IMO, Benintendi and Peters are the only other “safe” guys right now. While I eagerly await the day Andrew is gone, his bat is still around league average or slightly better against RHP and that plays at DH for the time being (Gonzalez could eventually push here as well). Meanwhile, Peters’ glove makes him a legit strong side platoon in CF even if the bat leaves a lot to be desired.That leaves a slog of RH outfielders (Hayes, Pereira, Grichuck, & Hill) and Kelenic for three total spots. I think there is a non-zero chance any of these guys could be DFAed in the coming weeks, but there are two who I think are more likely to stick than the other three. IMO, Hayes is the safest here for two reasons. First, they gave him $6M and I doubt they cut bait on that money this early. Second, while not great RHP, historically he’s not a true platoon guy. The other guy who I think has some roster staying power is Periera. They traded for him, he’s young & controllable, can fill-in in CF, and has the physical tools to be a potential regular. If it weren’t for health, he’d be with Peters & Benintend.That leaves one spot for Grichuk, Kelenic, & Hill. As many here know, I’ve been highly skeptical of Kelenic since the day he was signed. However, now that he’s up, I’ve also been willing to give him a bit of run to see if anything clicks before a better option comes along. That being said, I think I’m ready to cut bait even though his Statcast page shows a lot of red. His K rate of 50% over his last 11 games shows a player trending the wrong way and the defense leaves a lot to be desired. If the Sox feel Hayes & Pereira can handle the bulk of RF (at least until Braden is ready), then cutting Kelenic is a legitimate option.As for Hill vs. Grichuk, the decision becomes a bit harder to make and comes down to their broader role. Both are platoon guys who should only face LHP and both have been highly productive in such a capacity this year. However, Hill provides more “role player” value with his defense (including ability to play CF) and speed than Grichuk does. He also seems to be a big part of the clubhouse and I think cutting bait on him now would be risky. Sucks as both guys have earned their paychecks, but we can’t carry four RH outfielders and the tie goes to Hill for the reasons stated above. Cutting Grichuk is a move we may regret if Hayes or Periera can’t stay healthy, but think it’s right move to make at this time.I keep looking at Hays and thinking he might get traded sooner than later. Problem is he has to show he's healthy and find someone willing to pay his salary. Him and Pereira are both frustrating to keep waiting on with their health problems. At this point Hays as far as health + performance should be last among the RH OFers. But you add salary in there as a reason they keep him, then he's first.
5 hours ago5 hr 14 minutes ago, fathom said:It’s crazy how many slap hitters are on this roster right nowA lot of that is injuries .No Teel,Baldwin, Hays and Pereira. Nishida might not be up very long unless he does well and being at home is the perfect opportunity to see if his energy provides some spark. Just going to have to be patient to see Braden and Teel. Hays should be back soon but he's a walking soft tissue leg injury waiting to happen againSox belief in Meidroth needs to be pushed by Gonzalez.
5 hours ago5 hr 56 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:I keep looking at Hays and thinking he might get traded sooner than later. Problem is he has to show he's healthy and find someone willing to pay his salary. Him and Pereira are both frustrating to keep waiting on with their health problems.At this point Hays as far as health + performance should be last among the RH OFers. But you add salary in there as a reason they keep him, then he's first.I just read somewhere...MLBTR(?)...that MLB free agents can't be traded until about June 15th, or so. But I could see Hays gone. Hill and Peters are great defensive subs, and Grichuk looks a lot better as a platoon option than Hays did when playing. Kelenic makes sense. Acuña has a little utility that Kelenic doesn't - that buys him another week.
5 hours ago5 hr 16 hours ago, caulfield12 said:Kind of a shot across the bow to Jacob Gonzalez's new fans?Nah Nishida is clearly a AAAA player. Player like Gonzalez isnt called up until deemed fit to remain on roster
4 hours ago4 hr 1 hour ago, Whisox05 said:We have a Kelenic appreciation thread around here somewhere.
4 hours ago4 hr 37 minutes ago, WestEddy said:I just read somewhere...MLBTR(?)...that MLB free agents can't be traded until about June 15th, or so. But I could see Hays gone. Hill and Peters are great defensive subs, and Grichuk looks a lot better as a platoon option than Hays did when playing.Kelenic makes sense. Acuña has a little utility that Kelenic doesn't - that buys him another week.Hays to Boston seems like a good fit. Can a trade take place if a player agrees to it?
4 hours ago4 hr 5 minutes ago, fathom said:Hays to Boston seems like a good fit. Can a trade take place if a player agrees to it?Yes, I believe he has to agree to it.
3 hours ago3 hr 2 hours ago, joejoesox said:Only Kelenic DFA'd, Acuna remains.Getz refuses to give up his precious. Edited 3 hours ago3 hr by WhiteSox2023
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