8 hours ago8 hr Back to the youth/defense/run prevention model of the Brewers...That's basically their version of Moneyball 2020's, that speed and defense is much more affordable than paying through the teeth for peak offensive production at corner spots.That taking money earmarked for Mune might better be invested across Vargas Colson and even Peters (as the best defender and fastest player on the team...unless you think it's Baldwin or Actually.)"Over the last decade, Milwaukee’s organizational philosophy has been straightforward: build around run prevention. The Brewers prioritize strong defense and pitching, then rely on a lineup that does just enough offensively to outscore opponents. That formula has helped them remain one of baseball’s most consistent contenders despite operating with a bottom-third payroll.Both Pratt and Lara fit that profile perfectly. Pratt is a 2024 Minor League Gold Glove winner whose defense earns 60 grades for both fielding and arm strength from MLB Pipeline. Pipeline is even higher on Lara, giving him a 70 grade for his defense and 60 grades for both his arm and speed. Both players project as significantly above-average fielders in the major leagues and have been consistently great defenders in the minor leagues. Furthermore, while no prospect is a sure thing, defensive skills tend to be more stable and predictable than offensive production — something that most likely gives the Brewers a little more confidence in offering Lara and Pratt their extensions."baseballsavant.comMilwaukee Brewers Statcast, Visuals & Advanced Metrics |...Milwaukee Brewers Statcast, Visuals & Advanced Metrics | MLB.comA full 12 members of the Brewers are at sprint speeds between 27.9 and 30!!!Of course, the White Sox play numerous summer games at GRF where balls fly out and the starting rotation isn't exactly their greatest strength ATM.Brew Crew BallLuis Lara, Cooper Pratt, and the Brewers’ front office ph...Why the recent Lara and Pratt extensions make sense for Milwaukee Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by caulfield12
5 hours ago5 hr Antonacci and Acuna have been among the worst defenders in terms of OAA…despite being among the fastest players on the team.While Peters, Colson, Chase, Braden and even Jacob Gonzalez have been among the best.baseballsavant.comChicago White Sox Statcast, Visuals & Advanced Metrics |...Chicago White Sox Statcast, Visuals & Advanced Metrics | MLB.com Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by caulfield12
5 hours ago5 hr White Sox not paired with any of the catching names yet, but quite a few of the pitchers.Detmers, Soriano, Foster Griffin, Robbie Ray, Clay HolmesNo Casey Mize, and Bleday would have been a good pickup, although they’re obviously happier with Grichuk than HaysSIMLB Trade Candidate Rankings, Deadline Predictions 2.0: T...With MLB’s trade deadline fast approaching, we’re ranking the top 25 players who could be moved in terms of value—and predicting if they’ll be traded.
5 hours ago5 hr 4 hours ago, hi8is said:What the f*** are you talking about?He thinks we should consider trading Murakami for pitching
5 hours ago5 hr 3 hours ago, caulfield12 said:Everything’s all great vibes for now, but it’s still a JR organization.Feels like we’re just jumping over this still lengthy transition period to the time when there’s a new stadium and a blank checkbook like the Phillies or Padres.We already know Meidroth and Antonacci likely can’t stay together in the lineup, and future lineup space for Carlson Thome Prosek and Weingartner could be limited as well.There’s definitely a legit case to be made for splitting the theoretical Mune extension $$$ two or three ways between Vargas Colson and Roch.Heck, we might be less than another season away from saying the same about Peters, although that’s certainly much less of a priority.We have zero payroll commitments and a team of cost controllable player. Stop with this insanity. And we have five more years of control of Peters…there is zero reason to worry about extending him. Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by Chicago White Sox
5 hours ago5 hr 3 hours ago, caulfield12 said:Everything’s all great vibes for now, but it’s still a JR organization.Feels like we’re just jumping over this still lengthy transition period to the time when there’s a new stadium and a blank checkbook like the Phillies or Padres.We already know Meidroth and Antonacci likely can’t stay together in the lineup, and future lineup space for Carlson Thome Prosek and Weingartner could be limited as well.There’s definitely a legit case to be made for splitting the theoretical Mune extension $$$ two or three ways between Vargas Colson and Roch.Heck, we might be less than another season away from saying the same about Peters, although that’s certainly much less of a priority.Ok… now it’s your turn for the same question even though I hadn’t asked you before.
5 hours ago5 hr 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:He thinks we should consider trading Murakami for pitching🤦🏻♂️
4 hours ago4 hr Let’s get this thread back on track.The Sox can’t roster all three of Grichuk, Hays, & Pereira. Everson is the only one controllable beyond this year and who can play CF…ideally you keep him so you don’t have to find someone to fill this role next year. That means you got to move one of Hays or Grichuk and it would be hard to move the latter after what he’s done.Both Austin & Pereira are at AAA in rehab stints. I think there is a real possibility that we call up Hays before the Astros series and try to showcase him a bit. We aren’t going to get a ton, but RH bats are in demand right now and he was a $6M signing this past offseason with a strong track against LHP. Maybe he nets you something that can help offset the cost of a rental catcher.Meanwhile, Everson can extend his rehab assignment through the trade deadline. I think they keep him down and use this as an opportunity to get him regular playing time while they work through the major league roster crunch. He comes up post deadline and returns to his previous role.
4 hours ago4 hr 25 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:Let’s get this thread back on track.The Sox can’t roster all three of Grichuk, Hays, & Pereira. Everson is the only one controllable beyond this year and who can play CF…ideally you keep him so you don’t have to find someone to fill this role next year. That means you got to move one of Hays or Grichuk and it would be hard to move the latter after what he’s done.Both Austin & Pereira are at AAA in rehab stints. I think there is a real possibility that we call up Hays before the Astros series and try to showcase him a bit. We aren’t going to get a ton, but RH bats are in demand right now and he was a $6M signing this past offseason with a strong track against LHP. Maybe he nets you something that can help offset the cost of a rental catcher.Meanwhile, Everson can extend his rehab assignment through the trade deadline. I think they keep him down and use this as an opportunity to get him regular playing time while they work through the major league roster crunch. He comes up post deadline and returns to his previous role.Sounds like a plan to me, Perez down, Hays up and Pereira stays on rehab for now.
2 hours ago2 hr 13 hours ago, GreenSox said:Well in 2016, Hahn thought we had a window, and made trades. There was no window, but his trades caused us to rebuild.20/21 didn't last because the team had no depth and the farm was terrible once the team got good. I remember reading "The farm system is #29, but for good reason." Well the good teams don't lost their farms when the teams get good. Anderson and Eloy get sour (and the clowns in the FO don't bring back their best pitcher) and there's no depth to help.We FINALLY have a good MLB team AND Farm. Nurture it, grow it, get it better; don't squander it.The AL will be better next year. But so will the Sox.Nothing is promised. There may not be an AL or NL next year. In 1983, a 22 year old Cal Ripken was in his second full season, put up an 8.2 WAR and the Orioles won the World Series. He made 18 straight All-Star appearances with Baltimore after 1983, and he never made it to another World Series. In 2016, the Cubs won the World Series with a core of:Kris Bryant - 24Anthony Rizzo - 26Addison Russell - 22Javier Baez - 23They also had Kyle Schwarber, Willson Contreras and Ian Happ waiting in the wings. As we know, they never got back. Rentals will come cheaper than players with control. They should be able to acquire help without giving up high-end capital. I've said the last few months, I don't want them going after rentals, they're a year "early" and winning the division/playoff success is just house money. I've changed my perspective on that after watching more of the season play out. The AL is BAD. The only team that actually scares me is a healthy Yankees team, and I don't know if we'll even see a healthy Yankees team in 2026. There is a VERY real world where the Sox earn a first round bye in the playoffs. If that happens, the path to the World Series isn't crazy at all. I'm not advocating for Getz to push all his chips in the middle of the table, pillage the farm system in order to get new bodies on the team for 3 months. But standing pat, being overly conservative isn't the play either. Sometimes the best pitch to hit is the first one. You can wait, but that pitch may never come.
2 hours ago2 hr Absolutely fair to say tomorrow is not promised and be able to keep building on tomorrow
2 hours ago2 hr I do not envy the position Getz is in. The Sox probably aren’t good enough to go deep into the postseason with their current rotation and catcher situation but Getz may feel the pressure to go for it and make some trades. And pitching is going to be massively expensive. I doubt he adds a catcher of note and just hopes Quero snaps out of his funk instead. Just don’t trade away any good prospects chasing the dream of an unlikely WS run and keep building for the future. Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by WhiteSox2023
2 hours ago2 hr We’re 11 days away from the deadline. We could start seeing some smaller moves any day now. Right now, here is who I see as possible sellers:Toronto (+6.5)Sacramento (+9.5)Kansas City (+10)LA Angels (+12)Cincinnati (+5.5)NY Mets (+10.5)San Francisco (+11)Colorado (+13)That’s eight likely sellers. There’s another 10 teams within 5 games of a Wild Card spot, so maybe one or two other teams fall off and decide to sell. Either way, it’s going to be a seller’s market…Getz will navigate it carefully.
2 hours ago2 hr 16 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:I do not envy the position Getz is in. The Sox probably aren’t good enough to go deep into the postseason with their current rotation and catcher situation but Getz may feel the pressure to go for it and make some trades. And pitching is going to be massively expensive. I doubt he adds a catcher of note and just hopes Quero snaps out of his funk instead. Just don’t trade away any good prospects chasing the dream of an unlikely WS run and keep building for the future.Call me crazy, but I think you can get by with below average catching.
1 hour ago1 hr 16 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:I do not envy the position Getz is in. They probably aren’t good enough to go deep into the postseason with their rotation and catcher situation but Getz may feel the pressure to go for it and make some trades. And pitching is going to be massively expensive. I doubt he adds a catcher of note and just hopes Quero snaps out of his funk.I don’t see why we couldn’t. The AL is a total mess…Sox are legitimately one of the best teams even with a clear need in the rotation. Address that issue and add a catcher that’s better than Romo / Quero and this team is as good as any. That being said, it’s still too early to push all your chips in. Mason Miller is a “finishing” move and we aren’t there yet. We should also not be desperate enough to cash in what could be a future star in Bonemer who could help us 6+ to maximize our chances for one or two. There is a balance that be had though and zero excuse for Getz not to be passively aggressive.
1 hour ago1 hr 9 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:Call me crazy, but I think you can get by with below average catching.Yeah with this lineup, put them in the 8 or 9 spot.
1 hour ago1 hr 7 minutes ago, joejoesox said:my bet is they trade for Robbie Ray if they pick up a rental SPI agree.
1 hour ago1 hr I think we are in thread the needle mode. We need to add, yet any additions will create a roster crunch so hopefully there can be some subtractions as well. Hayes and Pereira will finish rehab and don't have options, while Perez can go to the minors, you still have one extra player. Lottery tickets are better than nothing. This sounds crazy with our ownership but if you aren't maxing out your MLB budget, (we are opening a DSL facility and I believe adding a second team) gaining international pool money (only gives you the right to spend more of your own money) might help stock a second team with someone of interest.I have a feeling that some of our increased attendance revenue was involved in the ability to acquire pick #34 and spend the roughly extra 3 million so not sure how much money we add in contracts.If we add a pitcher or two plus a catcher upgrade over Romo, who goes off the 24 man besides Romo? If they don't have options, get something/anything for them. All this while not destroying the clubhouse chemistry/magic of which there is no way to quantify. I guess Schultz because of his options, may be sent down. Mason Adams is looking close and Shane Smith/Thorpe maybe do something. McDougal and possibly Hagen Smith have been mentioned as bullpen additions. You can squint and even see Iriarte, Pallette, Gonzalez as possibilities which all further complicate the roster.Whatever happens most will scream we paid too much. I will look at Jared Kelley (3 million) and Wes Kath (1.8 million) and remember there is a reason they are called prospects not sure things.
1 hour ago1 hr We should also have a financial edge that other clubs won’t have because Jerry went so cheap into the season with his payroll. If the Chapman rumors were true, that will give us a bit of an advantage.
1 hour ago1 hr The Sox are a top 3 World Series contender in the AL. They have to add starting pitching to solidify it, but they almost certainly will do so. Getz does not need to be reckless, but he needs to be aggressive at this trade deadline. No excuse not to add to the roster in a meaningful way.The 2 seed in the AL will get a bye to the ALDS, have homefield advantage in the ALDS, and will be awaiting the winner of the AL West champion (Seattle/Texas) vs the #6 seed.The path to the ALCS for the Sox is wide open. Be aggressive and add!
1 hour ago1 hr I don't mind the idea of Ray. He is due 8 million for the rest of the season. For some teams that amount is nothing. Does it matter for the Sox/JR? If you take full salary on then prospect cost shouldn't be awful.
1 hour ago1 hr 9 minutes ago, BamaDoc said:I don't mind the idea of Ray. He is due 8 million for the rest of the season. For some teams that amount is nothing. Does it matter for the Sox/JR? If you take full salary on then prospect cost shouldn't be awful.I think they are more willing to take on salary then give up top prospects.
53 minutes ago53 min Trade article talking about relative prices of players.https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7463940/2026/07/23/mlb-trade-deadline-predictons-history/?campaign=19001743&source=athletic_thewindup_newsletter&userId=6062851Miller, as an example
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