We traded him for Cam Booser right? Wonder what Getz thought process was with that one.

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23 minutes ago, ron883 said:

We traded him for Cam Booser right? Wonder what Getz thought process was with that one.

Getz hasn’t made a bad trade according to some around here.

51 minutes ago, ron883 said:

We traded him for Cam Booser right? Wonder what Getz thought process was with that one.

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1 hour ago, Quin said:

Same, but I also remember prospect hugging dooming the Orioles. Who can forget the O's "friends" that we had?

My favorite or actually least favorite "guest friend" on this site was that Astros fan that hung out for the last playoff series we were in. I remember finally breaking down when he was helpfully giving us an injury update of someone on Houston and I posted ",WILL YOU JUST GET THE FRIG OUTTA HERE".....but I didn't say frig.

2 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Getz hasn’t made a bad trade according to some around here.

That trade sucked…no doubt it

22 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

That trade sucked…no doubt it

But then again, Getz was also one trade away from a pimp ass cheap ass outfield. Mena for Jake McCarthy instead of Fletcher, along with the Tristan Peters pickup. Guy was one failed trade away from building one of the best cheapest outfields in Sox history — Antonacci, Peters, and McCarthy. Three outfielders all around ~.800 OPS making trash money.

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8 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Unless it's the one piece to put you over the top for a true WS contender.

Sox still need catcher 1-2 SP and 1-2 relievers.

Ok so tell me which one? With Austin Hays and Everson Pereira both due to be off the IL, Perez will go away. Both have no options left. Who stays and who gets traded or waived. Who is the keeper right now. Which one?

1 hour ago, soxrwhite said:

Ok so tell me which one? With Austin Hays and Everson Pereira both due to be off the IL, Perez will go away. Both have no options left. Who stays and who gets traded or waived. Who is the keeper right now. Which one?

I’d keep Pereira and trade Hays.

9 hours ago, Quin said:

Same, but I also remember prospect hugging dooming the Orioles. Who can forget the O's "friends" that we had?

2024 was the Orioles 101-win, divisional champion season. They were already at the top of the win curve. They needed dominant starting pitching to get further in the playoffs. Over two post-seasons, they went 0-5. They were arguably in their window.

2024 was the year for the Orioles to pull the trigger. I think that year is next year for the White Sox.

This caught my attention, holy cow what a stacked lineup.

I want Shea Langoliers and I'm willing to trade Teel as part of a package for him

I doubt you could use him as the main piece with all these injuries, but Shea has 3 more full seasons of cheap control so you're getting a beast that's locked up for a few more years

question is, do you give up legit pieces like Teel or Bonemer for a legit catcher or do you go after a SP

Probably SP, but man I want Langoliers on this team

16 hours ago, Falstaff said:

I think the Phillies need a RF; Derek Hill has been doing a good job but flipping Hays or Pereira might be an option.

The Phillies have painful experience with "acquire Austin Hays at the trade deadline" in 2024 (in fact, they traded Seranthony Dominguez to the Orioles for Hays); he was oft-injured and gave them -0.4 WAR in 22 games.

As for Pereira, they already have outfielders that can hit .230 - I don't see that meeting their needs for an upgrade. Perhaps he'd have more value if he produces for awhile at the Major League level first.

24 minutes ago, joejoesox said:

I want Shea Langoliers and I'm willing to trade Teel as part of a package for him

I doubt you could use him as the main piece with all these injuries, but Shea has 3 more full seasons of cheap control so you're getting a beast that's locked up for a few more years

question is, do you give up legit pieces like Teel or Bonemer for a legit catcher or do you go after a SP

Probably SP, but man I want Langoliers on this team

Probably Bonemer and McDougal...and that just depends on whether they see Caleb as a future 3B or 2B, as they are already projecting deVries to move to third from SS.

At that point, you still need pitching and the only big asset left is Carlson.

And then there's the risk of 2027 being at least half lost, and with it some of the value of that control comes off.

Doubtful you can/should include Teel at such a steep discount. Just throw in Quero as a sweetener as third/fourth piece.

8 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

That trade sucked…no doubt it

Also...who said he had no bad trades? Maybe i missed that discussion.

I see the prospect hugging is reaching maximum levels too.

So thinking through this roster crunch and what it means for the upcoming trade deadline. The Sox currently have 38 people on their active 40 man roster and another eight guys on the 60 day IL. There are also several players who will need to be placed on the 40 man roster this coming offseason or be subject to the Rule 5 draft. So we’re currently at 46 guys plus possibly a few more to come.

For this exercise, I will assume that we add a catcher, a SP, and a RP at the trade deadline. Let’s assume Romo & Schweitzer are sent down and Fedde is moved out of the rotation and into the bullpen forcing us to trade/DFA Richards. That’s three guys in and one guy out, which maxes out the 40 man roster without an offsetting move being needed. Let’s also assume Pereira ultimately replaces Perez and that Hays is traded. That puts the roster at 47 guys total.

Let’s also note that Grichuk, Newcomb, & Fedde are free agents after the year. For this exercise, let’s assume that the catcher & RP we add are rentals but the SP is controllable. Teel replaces the catcher on the 26 man roster. We don’t have an obvious RH outfielder to replace Randall, so assume that’s a FA. I’d also just assume we add two FA arms and leverage McDougal to fill the other spot. That is net attrition of two spots and would bring the roster down to 45.

That is before you have to make calls on adding Mason Adams, Bergolla, Iriarte, & Pallette. Hagen Smith also needs to factor into the mix here. Add these five and you’re now up to 50 guys into the equation for 40 roster spots. Ignoring the guys on the 26 man roster, you need to trade, release, or leave unprotected 10 of the following 24 dudes:

• Infielders (3): Bergolla, Baldwin, Murray

• Outfielders (2): Nishida, Perez

• Catchers (1): Romo

• RH Pitchers (13): Sandlin, Thorpe, Adams, S. Smith, Vasil, Gonzalez, Berrora, Leasure, Davis, Pallette, Iriarte, Cannon, Davitt

• LH Pitchers (5): H. Smith, Schweizter, Bush, Rock, Gilbert

Alright, the post above was just aligning on who the bubble guys might be. The question is whether losing 10 of them would be an actual problem. From my perspective, there are a handful of easy cuts.

For the RHPs, Cannon & Davitt could go right now and I wouldn’t care now that Adams & Shane are back as AAA depth. Tyler Davis was solid at times, but is pretty expendable IMO. Iriarte has pitched well and was a former big name, but he’s not K’ing a ton of guys in AAA and only has one option left. I’d take my chances he does not get selected in the Rule 5. That’s four cuts right there.

On the LHP front, Gilbert was ok last year, but is old and lacks stuff. Schweitzer has jumped him on the depth chart and a healthy Ky Bush seals his fate. Rock is expendable as well, so that’s two more cuts and six total.

It’s the positional side that is challenging. You got to have at least one minor league catcher, infielder, and outfielder on your 40 man. So while neither Perez or Rikuu are key prospects to me, someone has to serve that OF role. I also like all three of the infielders, so at max there is only one easy cut here.

After those seven, you start tapping into guys with value. And it’s going to get worse when Bonemer, Roch, & others start pushing their way into the roster mix. The crunch is definitely real and it feels like we will need to trade a few of the guys within the aforementioned group of 24 this deadline to ease the pressures.

Of the 24 guys listed above, here are the main ones with real trade value:

1. Hagen Smtih, LHP

2. David Sandlin, RHP

3. Drew Thorpe, RHP

4. William Bergolla, IF

5. Mason Adams, RHP

6. Shane Smith, RHP

7. Wikelman Gonzalez, RHP

I fully expect one or two of these guys being dealt at the deadline.

8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Of the 24 guys listed above, here are the main ones with real trade value:

1. Hagen Smtih, LHP

2. David Sandlin, RHP

3. Drew Thorpe, RHP

4. William Bergolla, IF

5. Mason Adams, RHP

6. Shane Smith, RHP

7. Wikelman Gonzalez, RHP

I fully expect one or two of these guys being dealt at the deadline.

How does Wikelman have "real trade value?" An ERA over 5 with a 1.333 whip in the minors.

2 hours ago, Falstaff said:

This caught my attention, holy cow what a stacked lineup.

We've done this before. Yes, this group feels different from that group, but I remember the days of creating potential future lineups with a "stacked" outfield of Ryan Sweeney-Brian Anderson-Jeremy Reed.

It's not to say the White Sox don't have a good foundation for the future, but we have no idea what the next few years will look like, but we know who the Sox are in 2026, as well as the rest of the AL.

7 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

How does Wikelman have "real trade value?" An ERA over 5 with a 1.333 whip in the minors.

It's really only 1-2 at this point unless you're just buying an underperforming contract.

Adams hasn't proven anything at the major league level yet, and Shane's a total mess still.

13 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

How does Wikelman have "real trade value?" An ERA over 5 with a 1.333 whip in the minors.

Because he was awesome before his injury (2.33 ERA | 12.86 K/9 | 3.21 BB/9 | 1.00 WHIP), has big time stuff, and has a 73rd percentile xwOBA in AAA despite playing half his games at Truist Field. Him having a couple of bad appearances while coming back from injury doesn’t change my evaluation of him.

15 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

It's really only 1-2 at this point unless you're just buying an underperforming contract.

Adams hasn't proven anything at the major league level yet, and Shane's a total mess still.

What’s only 1 or 2 at this point?

Adams hasn’t proven anything in the majors because he’s a “prospect”. Are you suggesting Bonemer doesn’t have value either then?

14 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

And then him Kelly Graveman destroyed the clubhouse…along with Grandal TÁ Moncada, etc.

I heard Jesse Rogers or somebody mention Graveman on 1000 this week, now this. Somehow I missed that he was a big part of the bad clubhouse vibes, anybody have a link or quick summary of what his deal was?

12 hours ago, Quin said:

Same, but I also remember prospect hugging dooming the Orioles. Who can forget the O's "friends" that we had?

Ahh yes, when career -1.0 WAR Coby Mayo was being touted as the next Brooks Robinson.

Just a thought exercise, but if you could pull these two trades off would you:

Trade #1:

• CWS get: RHP Mason Miller

• SDP get: SS Billy Carlson, RHP Tanner McDougal, IF William Bergolla, OF George Wolkow

Trade #2:

• CWS get: LHP Reid Detmers

• LAA get: LHP Hagen Smith, C Edgar Quero, 2B Javier Mogollon