2 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Just saw this stat:

Sox relief pitchers have now given up 113 runs on the road this season, the most in MLB.

Cleveland commentators mentioned that during the broadcast explaining why the Sox are dominant at home and pathetic on the road and they said that explains it all, and they're not wrong. Two winnable games vs Cleveland, both lost by the bullpen.

Venable says postgame that Seranthony pitched better than the boxscore looks, since ump stole a strikeout from him. On the other hand, I see Venable's actions: pulling Seranthony at the first opportunity even though failing to get an inning from him was disastrous for our pitcher usage. So, I think the postgame comments amount to a little bit of ass-kissing for Seranthony.

6 minutes ago, TheBooneLoganEra said:

He has looked tired to me. All star break hopefully helps him reset.

Looks like he has a bad back to me

7 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said:

If bringing in Murakami means taking Gonzalez bat out of the lineup, not a huge bunch of upside with that move

Use upgrade in terms of power

I was hoping that Murakami would have been activated to DH in this important 4 game series. The season only was so many games against a team fighting for the division. Sox needed him.

7 minutes ago, fathom said:

Looks like he has a bad back to me

Well we know that has been an issue for him. Getting flashbacks of Joe Crede and Bill Melton.

I don't really see a place on the team for Jacob when Mune comes back. But Jacob has impressed me and has nothing to hang his head about. We'll likely see him back at some point.

8 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Well we know that has been an issue for him. Getting flashbacks of Joe Crede and Bill Melton.

Mercy!

2 minutes ago, Jake said:

I don't really see a place on the team for Jacob when Mune comes back. But Jacob has impressed me and has nothing to hang his head about. We'll likely see him back at some point.

If/when they bring back Mune, Gonzo could stay at 1B with Mune at DH , at least for the time being.

Again, IMO, that should have been done at the outset of this series. It will be difficult to pick up 4 games against Cleveland if we get swept , especially after they bring back Ramirez.

Take one. Come home.

Maybe tomorrow...maybe some day..

By no means do I think this is a competent bullpen but to be fair I saw recently a stat that said they have either thrown the most innings or made the most appearances (maybe both) in MLB.

That is a direct result of the Sox having a starting pitching staff that can't go deep into games and basically doesn't scare anybody. Hell they don't even have a fifth starter they can use regularly.

This is a bad pitching staff from top to bottom.

We'll never know what Getz has been allowed to do by JR but he has to bear some responsibility for putting this staff together, or maybe to the point not putting together at least a decent one for the year. (And if the Sox were flailing away in the standings again they could be used a trade fodder.)

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14 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Take one. Come home.

The way things have been going I'd be happy with a single win and 3-4 on the road trip.

1 hour ago, MexSoxFan#1 said:

Cleveland commentators mentioned that during the broadcast explaining why the Sox are dominant at home and pathetic on the road and they said that explains it all, and they're not wrong. Two winnable games vs Cleveland, both lost by the bullpen.

And both in walk off fashion. Need to beef up the bullpen ASAP. It’s our Achilles heel today.

1 hour ago, Jake said:

I don't really see a place on the team for Jacob when Mune comes back. But Jacob has impressed me and has nothing to hang his head about. We'll likely see him back at some point.

Offense is not our problem. Relief pitching is. With Mune or without him, we still have a problem with the pitching side. Need to start planning for deals at the trade deadline.

1 hour ago, Jake said:

I don't really see a place on the team for Jacob when Mune comes back. But Jacob has impressed me and has nothing to hang his head about. We'll likely see him back at some point.

Platoon him with Chase

1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:

By no means do I think this is a competent bullpen but to be fair I saw recently a stat that said they have either thrown the most innings or made the most appearances (maybe both) in MLB.

That is a direct result of the Sox having a starting pitching staff that can't go deep into games and basically doesn't scare anybody. Hell they don't even have a fifth starter they can use regularly.

This is a bad pitching staff from top to bottom.

We'll never know what Getz has been allowed to do by JR but he has to bear some responsibility for putting this staff together, or maybe to the point not putting together at least a decent one for the year. (And if the Sox were flailing away in the standings again they could be used a trade fodder.)

He didn’t expect them to contend. Why spend heavily on a staff if you expect it to be a rebuilding year with moderate progression from last? This team was never intended to be in a race in July.

Kinda hoping we get rained out tomorrow so the bullpen can rest. Split the doubleheader on Sunday and get our asses home

3 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

By no means do I think this is a competent bullpen but to be fair I saw recently a stat that said they have either thrown the most innings or made the most appearances (maybe both) in MLB.

That is a direct result of the Sox having a starting pitching staff that can't go deep into games and basically doesn't scare anybody. Hell they don't even have a fifth starter they can use regularly.

This is a bad pitching staff from top to bottom.

We'll never know what Getz has been allowed to do by JR but he has to bear some responsibility for putting this staff together, or maybe to the point not putting together at least a decent one for the year. (And if the Sox were flailing away in the standings again they could be used a trade fodder.)

Arguably, at least Hagen Smith was expected to be a viable starter...if not McDougal later in the season.

But the fact all the TJS pitchers weren't going to be ready until at least the second half certainly wasn't a surprise at all.

Then you have the Shane Smith slide.

Victimized again by Suck Anthony Dominguez. Just dump this fool

Does Colson Montgomery need to go back to Arizona for another reset? He is an automatic out lately. Usually a strikeout. Now his defense is going south too. Bad back? Reverting to the form he showed in most of minor league career? He's killing us right now.

The playbook on Dominguez is pretty obvious, make him throw strikes.

7 minutes ago, Falstaff said:

The playbook on Dominguez is pretty obvious, make him throw strikes.

He is so wild he even fools the ump when he throws a strike. I was listening on the radio and Len and DJ both thought he would have likely struck out Rocchio had Teel challenged. Why did Teel not challenge in that huge situation?

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30 minutes ago, HoosierSox said:

He is so wild he even fools the ump when he throws a strike. I was listening on the radio and Len and DJ both thought he would have likely struck out Rocchio had Reel challenged. Why did Reel not challenge in that huge situation?

MLB is going to automatically put 2 ghost runners on 1st & 2nd when Dominguez comes in to speed up the game.

2 bad and frustrating loses.

The ball that Montgomery booted was terrible. Had a slow Catcher running down the line, just field the damn ball.

Lack of concentration in a big moment.

We are going to get swept because this bullpen is shot.

Cleveland really is not good but if you keep walking them then it doesn't matter.

Any chance of winning today has to have a formula where Burke goes at least 6 and Taylor pitches only 9th. 7th and 8th?? Who the hell knows......actually I would let Hicks pitch, he is pretty fresh and has thrown the ball well.

Just brutal losses

nobody here said it, but there is that dreaded 5 letter word starting with C. It happened.