10 minutes ago, kitekrazy said:

OH SO THEY'RE THE ONES WHO GAVE UP 11

Gifted 6 runs but yeah should won this one. Pitching fucked us

Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by Bob Sacamano

This is where even a bad Castillo should have been able to give you 6 innings, 4 runs. Instead, he’s just wasting a roster spot.

1 minute ago, joejoesox said:

Fedde, Martin, and Burke can all go 7 easy if you're cool with being down a 5 spot

I mean, what's the difference? Either your starter gives up the runs, or the bullpen that is incredibly overworked gives up the runs.

They don't have any legit starters. Starting pitchers should be able to give you 5-6 innings. I would love to see how many pitches their starters have thrown compared to everyone else. It has to be bottom 3.

2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Gifted 6 runs but yeah should won this one. Pitching fucked us

As much as I like Billy Carlson's potential, I don't know why he wasn't moved for a legit starter.

Just now, Quin said:

As much as I like Billy Carlson's potential, I don't know why he wasn't moved for a legit starter.

He’s clearly blocked and will never play SS for the Sox unless Bonemer and Cholowsky are busts and in that case you have a whole other issue on your hand

7 minutes ago, tray said:

That's a bulshit excuse.

I’m not so sure. Some poster said that the Sox historically choke in September, while the Guardians actually play better when they are down and out and take the division. He got s%*# on for that post, but it doesn’t seem so crazy now…

1 minute ago, Quin said:

As much as I like Billy Carlson's potential, I don't know why he wasn't moved for a legit starter.

Yeah he’s never going to play for the big league team.

Who is more responsible for this tragic ending to what was earlier in the year a reason for this team and its fans to hold their heads high and feel a sense of elation that has now burnt itself into a hellish nightmare. Getz or Venable?

Just now, Lightly Folded said:

Who is more responsible for this tragic ending to what was earlier in the year a reason for this team and its fans to hold their heads high and feel a sense of elation that has now burnt itself into a hellish nightmare. Getz or Venable?

Getz

Holy Crap....Newcomb has imploded lately.

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Getz

Agreed. If he gets credit for acquiring players like Vargas and Peters and the team doing better than expected this season, he should also have to eat s%*# for one of the worst trade deadlines in MLB history. And no, it’s not too early to judge those deadline trades. His acquisitions haven’t done jack squat for this season, which is the exact purpose of deadline trades. They have made the team worse.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by WhiteSox2023

No team grabs defeat from the jaws of victory in crunch time like the White Sox

3 minutes ago, Lightly Folded said:

Who is more responsible for this tragic ending to what was earlier in the year a reason for this team and its fans to hold their heads high and feel a sense of elation that has now burnt itself into a hellish nightmare. Getz or Venable?

Getz

Billy Carlson, Mason Adams, and Boston Smith probably could have netted a legitimate starter at the deadline. That would be sparing the bullpen right now and we could trust Taylor, Newcomb, etc.

Venable has made wild decisions, but the staff is held together with duct tape

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

Getz

Every move he has made has turned to s%*# overnight. Terrible talent evaluator and when they lose Barfield in the offseason he will be exposed even more. Unfortunately, Jerry is going to extend him at this point.

They do have a great young offensive team. The Montgomery boys strike out way too much. Vargas, Muney, and Meidroth are solid. B Montgomery has great arm in right field, can he hit his weight? Teel will be a star, I’d keep Roger’s as his backup. Colson, question is can he cut down on strikeouts, same with B Montgomery, he also strikes out way too much also, yes they’re young and a lot of potential talent. Colson has too much power to give up on him yet.

17 minutes ago, ThatBallHitDeep_WAYBack said:

Historic collapse. Complete choke job.

Not more historic than Detroit’s choke job last season

1 minute ago, AntMan26 said:

Not more historic than Detroit’s choke job last season

We aren’t Detroit fans so who cares?

Just now, WhiteSox2023 said:

We aren’t Detroit fans so who cares?

I just got railed on by a buddy of mine who is a tigers fan. To say the least I’m a little salty atm. Telling me we have the worst fans in the world blah blah blah.

20 minutes ago, ThatBallHitDeep_WAYBack said:

Everyone in the bullpen has dead arm because starters are allergic to going over 4 and 2 thirds.

They’re not allergic, they’re just not good pitchers.

Look, I know this sucks. This game sucks. This team has sucked recently. But really barring a miracle, did anyone see this team making it to World Series? It's gonna suck if they get bounced from a playoff spot. There's a lot of emotion to making it this far in first place just to let it slip away. But really they were there by virtue of the AL Central sucking ass and somehow being a .500 team that had 1 good month but never really broke through to start working toward 15-20 games over .500. This team never had the horses, and I know shitting on Getz deadline is the popular thing to do but he was not fixing this s%*# at the deadline. This team is just SUPER young, no matter what they should be proud of their season. It was fun, they gave us a fun year of baseball and meaningful September baseball and that's something I didn't know I needed until I had it again because I basically stopped watching the Sox the past few years.

There's still a solid chance we end up a Wild Card - but even then that may be the peak for this team because if they have to play a team like Houston, I don't see them winning whether it's in the Wild Card or the ALDS. For whatever reason, they just don't play well against them.

Not making the postseason would be awful given the way the first 4 months went. No one was expecting a World Series team, but a ton of momentum has come to a screeching halt

i can’t imagine Peters’ injuries just being just day to day. Watch his collision with the wall again. That was rough. Now think about swinging a bat after that.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by WhiteSox2023

We lose a game we were up 6 in the 5th inning and we lose Peters. Just a disastrous day for this team's postseason chances.

Second shocking loss in a week.

13th time this year the Sox had a lead in the 7th inning or later and lost the game.

Just hard to see how they recover from this one.

Pitching is completely spent.

Somehow win four more games, lock in a winning season, thanks for the memories and make your golf reservations.

We'll see if there is a next season.

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

Not making the postseason would be awful given the way the first 4 months went. No one was expecting a World Series team, but a ton of momentum has come to a screeching halt

Expectations increase when your team plays better than expected and is in a putrid division of terrible teams.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by WhiteSox2023