Garland was more major league ready when he came up then McCarthy is now and how many people tried to run him out of town.

When Garland came up he was younger, had less experience, and stats not as impressive as McCarthy's. How was he more major league ready?

When Garland came up he was younger, had less experience, and stats not as impressive as McCarthy's.  How was he more major league ready?

Because nobody seems to be checking their facts these days.

Borchard was not the 5th pick overall.  The Sox haven't had a top ten pick since ... who?  Thomas?  Fernandez?

ok, I just remember hearing Sox got excellent value when they picked him because no one expected him to sign to play baseball since he was also a possible 1st round football pick the next year. So maybe he was like 15th, but people were saying he was top ten value...

When Garland came up he was younger, had less experience, and stats not as impressive as McCarthy's.  How was he more major league ready?

 

He wasn't.

Because nobody seems to be checking their facts these days.

 

 

Or just tossing s*** at the walls and going with what happens to stick.

 

 

Your arm tired?

Borchard was not the 5th pick overall.  The Sox haven't had a top ten pick since ... who?  Thomas?  Fernandez?

Borchard would have been a top-5 pick but he fell because other teams didn't want to pay his signing bonus.

I don't know if this has been posted, but it looks like the D-Backs will pay $8 million:

 

The Diamondbacks, who also have agreed to pay $8 million of the remaining $23 million in Vazquez's contract over the next two years

 

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/20...s-vazquez_x.htm

Out of f***ing line. Yet I am not surprised.

 

Agreed. It was out of line.

I don't know if this has been posted, but it looks like the D-Backs will pay $8 million:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/20...s-vazquez_x.htm

Wow. Considering they initially weren't willing to pay anything in a Vazquez deal, that's shocking. It also goes to show what they think of Chris Young. With Vizcaino arb eligible, the money is close to a wash this season with Duque getting 4.5 Vizcaino around 2.0 and 4.0 from the D-Backs, that's only $1 million the Sox are adding to the payroll.

I don't know if this has been posted, but it looks like the D-Backs will pay $8 million:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/20...s-vazquez_x.htm

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f***ing awesome! WOOHOOO!

Wow. Considering they initially weren't willing to pay anything in a Vazquez deal,  that's shocking. It also goes to show what they think of Chris Young. With Vizcaino arb eligible, the money is close to a wash this season with Duque getting 4.5 Vizcaino around 2.0 and 4.0 from the D-Backs, that's only $1 million the Sox are adding to the payroll.

 

Only adding about $1 mill to the payroll makes this deal worth it. Great job again KW!

I don't know if this has been posted, but it looks like the D-Backs will pay $8 million:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/20...s-vazquez_x.htm

 

So the Yankees, Philles and D/Backs are giving us almost $30M to field a compeitive team???? Amazing.

 

At $7.5M a year this is a great deal. I am sorry Willie Mays Jr. had to go.

 

I find it somewhat interesting that Young and Rowand are gone but Anderson is still here. I like Wilder and think he knows what he is doing.

Borchard went #12 overall. That was the highest since Bobby Seay in 1996 was also drafted #12. Alex Fernandez is the only top 10 pick since 1990, when he went #4 overall.

 

There only major differences between Garland and McCarthy are their performances that year. Garland was much better in the minors that year, but got shelled in the majors. McCarthy was having a less than stellar year in the minors and during his first callup, but was very good in his second shot with the club. I'd say his pitching performance toward the end of the year more clearly displayed he was ready than Garland's 6+ ERA in his first year with the Sox.

Out of f***ing line. Yet I am not surprised.

Too early for jokes?

  Too early for jokes?

 

I once hit a guy in the face with spaghetti and an Italian dude ate him. Its no laughing matter. Sorry, that was dumb.

I once hit a guy in the face with spaghetti and an Italian dude ate him.  Its no laughing matter.  Sorry, that was dumb.

B for the effort though

I don't know if this has been posted, but it looks like the D-Backs will pay $8 million:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/20...s-vazquez_x.htm

That is excellent news. That may very well mean that we can resign either Contreras or Garland with ease now, and thus have 5 guaranteed starters for 2 years (and hopefully more, if KW does what he should and caves in to every single demand by Cy Buehrle)

I don't know if this has been posted, but it looks like the D-Backs will pay $8 million:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/20...s-vazquez_x.htm

 

 

Wow. Sox need to extend KW's contract next!

So the Yankees, Philles and D/Backs are giving us almost $30M to field a compeitive team????  Amazing.

 

At $7.5M a year this is a great deal.  I am sorry Willie Mays Jr. had to go.

 

I find it somewhat interesting that Young and Rowand are gone but Anderson is still here.  I like Wilder and think he knows what he is doing.

 

That $30 Million will probably be more than the full team payrolls of the Marlins or Devil Rays in 2006!

Edited December 14, 200520 yr by WinninUgly

To get Vasquez for crappy LV, Young who was not in future plans really and there oldest player on team who was gone next year anyway is brilliant on KW part, I think Garlang may go If Contreras signs an extension.

To get Vasquez for crappy LV, Young who was not in future plans really and there oldest player on team who was gone next year anyway is brilliant on KW part, I think Garlang may go If Contreras signs an extension.

Chris Young was most definately in the future plans. As of yesterday he was on pace to be our starting CF in '07.

Chris Young was most definately in the future plans. As of yesterday he was on pace to be our starting CF in '07.

Now it'll just have to be Anderson. Let's hope he's up to the challenge.

Chris Young was most definately in the future plans. As of yesterday he was on pace to be our starting CF in '07.

 

 

Young can go Anderson will be fine.

The Sox now have the best Rotation in baseball and a rotation that could have 5 15 game winners. Vizcaino is Vizcaino IMHO. He won't make much of an impact anyways. El Duque is the guy I am concerned about however you have to give up something to get something.

+$11.5 million (Vazquez's 2006 salary)

-$4.0 million (cash from Diamondbacks)

-$4.5 million (El Duque's 2006 salary)

-$1.5 million (Vizcaino's estimated 2006 salary)

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+$1.5 million

 

The Sox will only be adding $1.5 million to their 2006 salary with the addition of Javier Vazquez.

Edited December 14, 200520 yr by SSH2005