fathom Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 ESPN is reporting that the Reds trade A. Kearns, F. Lopez, and R. Wagner to the Nationals for 5 players, including Royce Clayton, Majewski, and a few others. What in the hell are the Reds thinking? Lopez is one of the more productive SS in the National League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Who are the "Others"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Holy crap. So this is what Bowden is like when he doesn't drink... actually smart. Â QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 13, 2006 -> 03:46 PM) Who are the "Others"? Austin Kearns, Felipe Lopez and Ryan Wagner have been traded from the Reds to the Nationals for the Gary Majewski, Bill Bray, Royce Clayton, Brendan Harris and Daryl Thompson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 I don't know who Bray, Harris, and Thompson are. Are any of them relievers? The Reds desperately need bullpen help, and all I know of there is Majewski. Â Lopez to Clayton? Eww, I wouldn't want any part of that transition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 (edited) Ok, that sure sounds a lot to me like the Reds throwing in the towel for this season. They get 1 reliever back, and they get the guys BA ranked as the Nats' 8 and 10 prospects last offseason.  BA on the Nats last November  BA on them in 04  Nats top 10 in 04:  5. Brendan Harris, inf 6. Bill Bray, lhp 7. Daryl Thompson, rhp  Nats in 05:  8. Bill Bray, lhp 10. Daryl Thompson, rhp Edited July 13, 2006 by Balta1701 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardsJimEdmonds15 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Nationals Get: OF Austin Kearns: .274 AVG, 16 HR, ,50 RBI, 7 SB SS Felipe Lopez: .268 AVG, 9 HR, 30 RBI, 23 SB P Ryan Wagner: 0-0 0.00 ERA, 0 IP Â Reds Get: RP Gary Majewski: 3-2 3.58 ERA, 34 K, 55.1 IP RP Bill Bray: 1-1 3.91 ERA, 16 K, 23.0 IP SS Royce Clayton: .269 AVG, 0 HR, 27 RBI, 8 SB IF Brendan Harris: .250 AVG, 0 HR, 2 RBI, 0 SB RHP Daryl Thompson: ??? Â - Just announced.. Dont know what the Reds are thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 QUOTE(CardsJimEdmonds15 @ Jul 13, 2006 -> 12:56 PM) - Just announced.. Dont know what the Reds are thinking? Either they're thinking that 1 relief pitcher will make all the difference for them this season, or this is a white flag trade. What's Majewski's contract status for the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 this trade makes zero sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 f***in wow man. Â Krivsky better pull some f***ing Terry Ryan s*** out of his ass, or this is looking like straight up robbery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardsJimEdmonds15 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006  07/13/2006 3:35 PM ET Reds get Majewski, Bray, Clayton, Harris, Thompson from Nationals Send Kearns, Lopez, Wagner to Washington in eight-player deal  CINCINNATI -- The Cincinnati Reds today acquired from the Washington Nationals RHP Gary Majewski, LHP Bill Bray, SS Royce Clayton, IF Brendan Harris and RHP Daryl Thompson in exchange for OF Austin Kearns, SS Felipe Lopez and RHP Ryan Wagner.  [Press Release] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Austin Kearns, Felipe Lopez and Ryan Wagner have been traded from the Reds to the Nationals for the Gary Majewski, Bill Bray, Royce Clayton, Brendan Harris and Daryl Thompson. OK, we take back every bad thing we've ever said about Jim Bowden. This looks like a complete and total steal for the Nationals. Kearns will probably head to center for now until Jose Guillen or Alfonso Soriano is trade. Lopez becomes the shortstop. Wagner figures to head to Triple-A. Jul. 13 - 3:44 pm et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Congratulations to the NL Central champion St Loius Cardinals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 13, 2006 -> 01:12 PM) Congratulations to the NL Central champion St Loius Cardinals... I haven't counted the Brewers out yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jul 13, 2006 -> 03:02 PM) this trade makes zero sense. Â For the Reds. But for the Nationals, it makes a s***load of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Yeah this makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 QUOTE(Whitewashed in @ Jul 13, 2006 -> 03:17 PM) Yeah this makes no sense. Â Once again, it makes perfect sense for the Nationals. What does one do when you're handed an opportunity to absolutely take advantage of another team in a trade? You do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tealeafreaderii Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Well... Bray and Majewaodifjslkgjalk are both pretty decent relievers and both are young... Â Â Lopez is a real good bat... but has pretty terrible defense... Royce would probably be a defensive upgrade... Â definitely looks like a dumb move in the long term... but the defense and pitching help might be just enough to get them past the cards this year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 If the Reds have something else long-term at Shortstop, this trade might make sense for them a few years down the road, as they could wind up with some decent bullpen talent out of it, and that's one area they've been sorely lacking, as we found out. But it's hard for me to see how this won't hurt them this year, especially with the loss of Kearns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.J. Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Holy god is this a robbery. Â And adding Ryan Wagner to the deal is icing on the cake. Â Whether they intended to or not, this makes the Reds the 4th best team in that division and huge huge sellers in this market. This has white flag written all over it and I just can't understand what they were hoping to achieve by this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 I have a question. I've heard a lot on this board about Ryan Wagner and how great he is. Why, exactly, was he not in the Reds' bullpen? Is he still just a prospect with a high ceiling? Or was he already in the majors and fell out of favor with the management? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 13, 2006 -> 03:32 PM) I have a question. I've heard a lot on this board about Ryan Wagner and how great he is. Why, exactly, was he not in the Reds' bullpen? Is he still just a prospect with a high ceiling? Or was he already in the majors and fell out of favor with the management? He was a first round draft pick a few years back. He's got good stuff and his first year in the majors he was very, very good. After that though, he just struggled for whatever reason. I think a lot of people believe with his stuff, he might just need a change of scenery considering he's still pretty young. Edited July 13, 2006 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangar18 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 13, 2006 -> 03:12 PM) Congratulations to the NL Central champion St Loius Cardinals... Â Â (hangar spits up lunch laughing ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Redszone says...  This is a joke right?  Hey it's July 13th, not April 1st. But you got me anyways. very funny. ha, ha, ha.  If this trade is real I feel sick.  Nope, this seems all too real, just confirmed on ESPN news. Early reaction: Krivsky has lost his freaking mind.  oy vey.... this is an awful deal for the Reds, even though I have a man-crush on Bill Bray  And of course...  My God, we just got scerwed by Jim Bowden.   Well, that's up to page 2, now for some reason I can't access the page. But I think that's a pretty fair sampling. Wow, a season with Tony Womack and Royce Clayton, with Rich Aurilia on the bench the whole time. Have they cornered the market on ancient journeyman infielders or what? 'I wonder if SD could be persuaded to take Adam Dunn for Eric Young...' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Jul 13, 2006 -> 01:58 PM) Well, that's up to page 2, now for some reason I can't access the page. But I think that's a pretty fair sampling. Wow, a season with Tony Womack and Royce Clayton, with Rich Aurilia on the bench the whole time. Have they cornered the market on ancient journeyman infielders or what? 'I wonder if SD could be persuaded to take Adam Dunn for Eric Young...' Maybe they're trying to attract Dusty Baker to manage them. Give that man 7 second baseman and he'll be unstoppable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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