SoxAce Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 As if football wasn't getting soft enough. Geez this is really getting ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I just found this deadspin headline hilarious and thought I would share New Lions Logo 23 Percent More Fierce, Should Result In Super Bowl Title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I think it's OK that TO isn't working out. per roto, through the AP Terrell Owens was absent for the start of Buffalo's conditioning program because he's in D.C. to receive an award for raising awareness about Alzheimer's Disease. T.O., whose grandma has Alzheimer's, will get the Alzheimer's Association's first Young Champions Award on Wednesday. He's being honored along with senator Jay Rockefeller and French president Nicolas Sarkozy. Despite ESPN trying to make a big deal of it, Owens' absence was never a concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 woohoo! Bears agreed to terms with OT Kevin Shaffer on a three-year contract. A 47-game starter for Cleveland from 2006-2008, Shaffer has been durable throughout his career and can play both tackle spots. His strength is in the run game, making Shaffer a good fit in Chicago. He will likely be penciled in at swing tackle behind LT Chris Williams and RT Frank Omiyale for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Yeah, I like that signing. I still want them to draft someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 He got a fairly big deal from Cleveland, then his play turns terrible and won't accept a pay cut. For 3 years, I'm not a fan of this signing. Browns fans say he was awful in pass blocking this past year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Mar 25, 2009 -> 09:59 PM) He got a fairly big deal from Cleveland, then his play turns terrible and won't accept a pay cut. For 3 years, I'm not a fan of this signing. Browns fans say he was awful in pass blocking this past year. Yeah, well, so was St. Clair... I don't know why so many seem to think losing St. Clair will be a huge loss. He definitely played well above expectations, but he wasn't really that good. He was a nobody until he came to us. In fact, he was absolutely miserable with the Rams. I vividly remember our d-line dominating St Clair back in like 2003 or 2004 when he was 1st starting for the Rams. I like the signing. It at least adds more depth than Cody Balogh. I was definitely a proponent of re-signing St. Clair, but since it didn't work out, I like this signing just as much. Edited March 26, 2009 by dasox24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Mar 25, 2009 -> 11:59 PM) Browns fans say he was awful in pass blocking this past year. your friend accounts for the whole fan base now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 QUOTE (rangercal @ Mar 27, 2009 -> 11:50 PM) your friend accounts for the whole fan base now? Go ask the Browns section of footballsfuture.com and they'll glady tell you, also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Mar 28, 2009 -> 04:21 PM) Go ask the Browns section of footballsfuture.com and they'll glady tell you, also. as posted in the other thread, read the comments below this article http://www.ohio.com/sports/41191037.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Bears met with Orlando Pace today... interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Washed up player who plays a line position? Jerry Angelo GMing? ...me = not shocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 The Broncos are now saying they will try to trade Cutler. I'm sure the Bears are interested, but probably won't get him. I think others are better positioned to get him, and I'm sure if he goes somewhere in a deal Angelo can't match, Angelo will still get fired on by most of the faithful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 31, 2009 -> 08:35 PM) The Broncos are now saying they will try to trade Cutler. I'm sure the Bears are interested, but probably won't get him. I think others are better positioned to get him, and I'm sure if he goes somewhere in a deal Angelo can't match, Angelo will still get fired on by most of the faithful. They can gladly have Orton and our 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 04:35 PM) Bears met with Orlando Pace today... interesting. Haha that would be such a Bears move, sign the washed up guy years after he was great. Jerry Angelo sickens me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 31, 2009 -> 10:23 PM) Haha that would be such a Bears move, sign the washed up guy years after he was great. Jerry Angelo sickens me. Eh Kenny Williams does it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 31, 2009 -> 09:35 PM) The Broncos are now saying they will try to trade Cutler. I'm sure the Bears are interested, but probably won't get him. I think others are better positioned to get him, and I'm sure if he goes somewhere in a deal Angelo can't match, Angelo will still get fired on by most of the faithful. Like I said in the other thread, it's a lose-lose situation. Either he gives up an unreasonable amount, or someone outbids him. Either way he's going to get flamed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 31, 2009 -> 09:24 PM) Eh Kenny Williams does it too. I'm not his number 1 fan either, although at least he has a ring to prove that he has some semblance of a concept of how to do his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Big difference- KW has a ring to show for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 31, 2009 -> 10:25 PM) I'm not his number 1 fan either, although at least he has a ring to prove that he has some semblance of a concept of how to do his job. I'm not an Angelo apologist and I won't make excuses for him because he appears to be completely clueless about how to put together an O-line, but it's not like the guy had a complete track record of cluelessness. He's put together a decent resume. Sure, there's holes in it, but he has accomplished some things since he's been here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 31, 2009 -> 08:28 PM) I'm not an Angelo apologist and I won't make excuses for him because he appears to be completely clueless about how to put together an O-line, but it's not like the guy had a complete track record of cluelessness. He's put together a decent resume. Sure, there's holes in it, but he has accomplished some things since he's been here. He's had major busts (Okwo, Bazuin) but he's had good players (Forte, Hester), too. People act like the almighty Steelers have perfect draft after perfect draft, and they haven't. Just take 1 example, Willie Reid. Picked as a WR in the 3rd round out of FSU to the Steelers in 2006, and now isn't even on a team and hasn't been since late August. Edited April 1, 2009 by whitesoxbrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 31, 2009 -> 09:28 PM) I'm not an Angelo apologist and I won't make excuses for him because he appears to be completely clueless about how to put together an O-line, but it's not like the guy had a complete track record of cluelessness. He's put together a decent resume. Sure, there's holes in it, but he has accomplished some things since he's been here. That is true, but you are right that his resume is full of holes. The only team under his leadership to win any games in the postseason was the Super Bowl team, which was fortunate to survive an OT home game against a mediocre Seattle team, then to draw a soft dome team in New Orleans the next week. He has accomplished some things while here, but most guys are going to stumble onto some success if they hold a job long enough. And I know it's sketchy to call a team that went to the Super Bowl " a fluke", but I'm willing to use that word when you consider Jerry Angelo was the GM and Rex Grossman was the QB. Edited April 1, 2009 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Mar 31, 2009 -> 10:36 PM) He's had major busts but he's had good players, too. People act like the almighty Steelers have perfect draft after perfect draft, and they haven't. Just take 1 example, Willie Reid. Picked as a WR in the 3rd round out of FSU to the Steelers in 2006, and now isn't even on a team and hasn't been since late August. Limas Sweed, Rashard Mendenhall (never been sold on him, maybe I'll be proven wrong but color me unimpressed before the injury) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 31, 2009 -> 09:39 PM) Limas Sweed, Rashard Mendenhall (never been sold on him, maybe I'll be proven wrong but color me unimpressed before the injury) My issue with Angelo isn't his drafting as much as it is his general inability to identify offensive talent (with very few exceptions). He's known for his ability to identify defensive talent, but the defense is getting old now, had a dropoff last year, and to me is going to have an even bigger dropoff this year due to age, injury, and injury problems, unless they have a BIG draft. Edited April 1, 2009 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 31, 2009 -> 10:41 PM) My issue with Angelo isn't his drafting as much as it is his general inability to identify offensive talent (with very few exceptions). He's known for his ability to identify defensive talent, but the defense is getting old now, had a dropoff last year, and to me is going to have an even bigger dropoff this year due to age, injury, and injury problems, unless they have a BIG draft. The offense isn't really in that horrible of shape, get a league-average O-line and something resembling a serviceable WR corps to help Orton out and it could be "ok." It has Matt Forte, Greg Olsen, Desmond Clark, the other TE whose name I forget but I like, and if there is a bona fide WR to play alongside him, Devin Hester. He seems to be putting a lot of eggs in Chris Williams's basket though. Which, if his back is actually fine, could be fine, but he's pulling another Kenny Williams doing this. Edited April 1, 2009 by lostfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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