SoxFan562004 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:01 PM) From someone who is a negotiator for a living, if we are getting into the fine points of a contract then we are steps away from a deal. Both sides wouldnt be asking for things unless an agreement was in there somewhere. I don't do it for a living, but as an attorney I've negotiated a fair amount of settlments and I totally agree. The agent saying it's not over adds more fuel to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 21, 2009 -> 08:01 PM) From someone who is a negotiator for a living, if we are getting into the fine points of a contract then we are steps away from a deal. Both sides wouldnt be asking for things unless an agreement was in there somewhere. This is something I completely agree with you. I think we'll have an answer by 8 PM tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerAtIU Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:01 PM) Perhaps Peavy can use his option to make a new park/zoo. A jurassic one, perhaps? Think Carl Everett would come to the opening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 HEyman again: # thanks @si_PeterKing peavy has reservations about AL, maybe chisox park, too. me, i'd go just for the deep dish and 'dogsless than a minute ago from web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 jason stark http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/stor...rumblings090521 Even if they don't acquire Jake Peavy, the White Sox are apparently "open for business." Stark takes that to mean names such as Jermaine Dye, Jim Thome, Paul Konerko, Octavio Dotel, and A.J. Pierzynski could hit the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:01 PM) From someone who is a negotiator for a living, if we are getting into the fine points of a contract then we are steps away from a deal. Both sides wouldnt be asking for things unless an agreement was in there somewhere. There is an agreement. We all have known that since 6 or 7am. That's between two parties who now have no control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (BobDylan @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:00 PM) I put together a new one and sent it to Jason. Didn't know he'd take the old one down this soon. We have once more been gaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (ChiSox420* @ May 21, 2009 -> 03:03 PM) Think Carl Everett would come to the opening? Never. Everett will deny this park's existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (soxfan3530 @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:59 PM) zoos in general are overrated. I dont want to pay 35 bucks to walk around and see a bunch of animals sleeping. I take it you haven't been to a Sox game this year.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (ChiSox420* @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:03 PM) Think Carl Everett would come to the opening? Oh man, this thread is priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:01 PM) From someone who is a negotiator for a living, if we are getting into the fine points of a contract then we are steps away from a deal. Both sides wouldnt be asking for things unless an agreement was in there somewhere. isn't it funny when basically there's an agreement that everyone can live with but both sides are still dicking around and someone just bluntly says, enough, that deal is it and it's done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 21, 2009 -> 03:04 PM) There is an agreement. We all have known that since 6 or 7am. That's between two parties who now have no control. He means over the NTC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 21, 2009 -> 11:51 AM) As someone who thinks the White Sox have been very cheap this season, and knowing if Peavy is outstanding for 3 1/2 years in Chicago that $22 million would be fair, to just guarantee it now is not smart. What if he gets hurt? What if he turns into Barry Zito? Stranger things have happened. If it were a hitter, that's one thing, but JR has been correct on his 3 year contracts for pitchers. He's extended to 4 recently with a couple of guys, but if they keep doing it, they will get burned, and $22 million would be a horrific burn. FWIW, the Sox took a $40 million gamble on Contreras, who was already in his mid-30s at the time and whose arm had been downright abused. He didn't pan out (consistently) over that time, but he didn't exactly cripple a team that had a ton of money committed elsewhere. It's not my money, but I'd say it's worth the gamble, given how bad the back of our rotation is and the possibility that Floyd may never pitch like he did in 2008 again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 21, 2009 -> 01:55 PM) Because we've been through this before when they tried to sign Hunter and then Fukudome. They said they were busting the budget, not that the money was available. If Peavy declines, we will get the same story. If owing a major league pitcher $22 million 4 seasons from now doesn't scream risk to you, nothing will.It's $18 million, not $22. $4 is auto-guaranteed. Also, someone already broke Peavy's contract down in this thread. It's not the horrible albatross you make it out to be, assuming of course Peavy ends up injured or sucking. If you can't see the value in adding a true ace to your rotation via trade, without mortgaging the farm system, for what ends up being a perfectly reasonable contract, then I don't know what to tell you. You've got your mind set on this team being cheap and/or stupid, and nothing will change that. Good luck with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 So Stark is saying that the Sox are either going to go from one extreme to another?? Get Peavy and everyone stays or dont get Peavy and eveyone goes?WTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:04 PM) There is an agreement. We all have known that since 6 or 7am. That's between two parties who now have no control. He's talking about negotiations between Peavy and the White Sox. Is it a certainty they are negotiating? Can they even negotiate without the commissioner signing off on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABearSoX Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I have talked to buerhle in person and shared a drink with him....from that meeting i can safely say he wouldn't give a damn...most down to earth athlete i have ever met Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan3530 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:05 PM) I take it you haven't been to a Sox game this year.... well played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I mean, if the Sox don't want to pick up his option, then they are completely retarded or this is all just PR. Baseball 101 says guy with a NTC will want his option picked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:05 PM) I take it you haven't been to a Sox game this year.... ZING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:04 PM) There is an agreement. We all have known that since 6 or 7am. That's between two parties who now have no control. There is an agreement in place between the Padres and the Sox. Now, Peavy and the Sox need to reach an agreement. I agree with the others, if the two sides are down to nitty gritty contract details, that's probably a good sign. But, if they're still apart on whether or not to exercise an $18M option, that's still a pretty big gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (DABearSoX @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:07 PM) I have talked to buerhle in person and shared a drink with him....from that meeting i can safely say he wouldn't give a damn...most down to earth athlete i have ever met That's pretty much what I was thinking, but I figured I'd throw it out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (ChiSox420* @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:02 PM) First that is always a cool thing to have the animals roam free. In Australia there zoos to a lot more of this and you can get up close with Kangaroos pretty cool stuff +1 Koalas are very, very, very soft and cute. Kangaroos can be cool but they look at you funny, as if to say "If you didn't have food in your hand I'd kill you and make my own." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:07 PM) He's talking about negotiations between Peavy and the White Sox. Is it a certainty they are negotiating? Can they even negotiate without the commissioner signing off on it? I think everything will be pretty rubber stamped unless there's money defered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Wow I've missed a lot since the last time I was on here. 80 page thread, I don't have time to read it all.cc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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