CSF Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Edwin Jackson in line to start 2nd game Found this part interesting: The Sox have set up their rotation for the first five exhibition games. Gavin Floyd, the likely No. 4 starter, will pitch the Sox's exhibition opening on Feb. 28 against the Los Angeles Dodgers. Opening day starter Mark Buehrle will face Milwaukee on March 1, followed by Jackson on March 2 against Cincinnati at Goodyear and left-hander John Danks on March 3 against Seattle. I know it may not be definite, but I thought Danks might actually get the nod this year. But Buehrle getting it works too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 QUOTE (CSF @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 05:25 PM) Edwin Jackson in line to start 2nd game Found this part interesting: I know it may not be definite, but I thought Danks might actually get the nod this year. But Buehrle getting it works too. I figured that Buehrle would be #1 and Danks would be #3, and then Jackson would be #2 until Peavy comes back, and then he is #4. I think Floyd is our last (permanent) starter the whole season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Pretty much unless Buerhle falls off of a cliff, he will be the opening day starter as long as he is here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 We all know the sox always try and break up Danks and Buehrle from pitching back to back in the rotation. Given that they are both lefties and pitch similar styles it makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Buehrle starting opening day against Cleveland = bad memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 QUOTE (joeynach @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 05:00 PM) We all know the sox always try and break up Danks and Buehrle from pitching back to back in the rotation. Given that they are both lefties and pitch similar styles it makes sense. I don't think they have similar styles at all. They both have a cutter and rely on location, but really, what truly effective starting pitcher DOESN'T rely on location in some regard? Maybe RA Dickey. Buehrle is very much a finesse pitcher, trying to fool hitters by changing just a little bit of speed and movement from pitch to pitch, trying to get hitters ahead, behind, or to miss the sweet spot of the bat. If he gets strikeouts, good, but he basically wants the hitter to get himself out. Danks goes right at hitters with a good fastball, uses the cutter to get hitters to make mistakes, and uses the changeup to get hitters out. It makes sense to break up the lefties not because they are similar in how they pitch but because it gets hitters looking to different sides of the mound in back to back games. It will be easier to hit a lefty if you have recently faced a lefty. If it hasn't been done, it would be interesting to see if there is any correlation between offensive success when facing lefties on back to back days. I would imagine that it'd be very difficult to control (due to varying levels of talent of left handed pitchers and managerial philosophies) and that the results would yield no significant outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gooch Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 06:39 PM) Buehrle starting opening day against Cleveland = bad memories. He beat them 1-0 in 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 07:39 PM) Buehrle starting opening day against Cleveland = bad memories. I agree. What are the bets for this year? 4 IP, 6 ER? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 08:51 PM) I agree. What are the bets for this year? 4 IP, 6 ER? Yeah, that Cleveland lineup... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Lest we forget, he won last year too. Play of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 07:51 PM) I agree. What are the bets for this year? 4 IP, 6 ER? Are you serious? You're more negative than me of late. I think you're wrong if you are. But I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 08:56 PM) Are you serious? You're more negative than me of late. I think you're wrong if you are. But I love it. It was an exaggeration since it seems like Buehrle always get lit up on opening day for whatever reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 For schnitz and griddles Buehrle's FIRST start of the year (so not technically opening day, but I'm pretty sure his only non-opening day start was 2006) 2002 - 6 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 5 K (W) 2003 - 7 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 3 BB, 1 K (L) 2004 - 6.2 IP, 8 H, 3 R (2 ER), 1 BB, 1 K (ND, Sox lost) 2005 - 8 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 5 K (W) 2006 - 4 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 1 BB, 1 K (rain-delay halfway through, hence the lack of innings...Sox won) 2007 - 1.1 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 1 K (ND, Sox won) 2008 - 1.2 IP, 7 H, 7 R, 1 BB, 1 K (ND, Sox lost) 2009 - 5 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 3 BB, 3 K (ND, Sox won) 2010 - 7 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K (W) Totals - 46.2 IP, 41 H, 19 R (18 ER), 14 BB, 21 K Average - 5.1 IP, 4.5 H, 2 R, 1.6 BB, 2.3 K Peripherals - 3.47 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, 2.7 BB/9, 4 K/9 I would say that the notion that Buehrle has been a bad opening day starter is way overblown. In fact, I would argue that, outside of 2 starts, he's been exceptional on Opening Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 06:39 PM) Buehrle starting opening day against Cleveland = bad memories. Honestly, (if I doesn't cost us the division) I'll sacrifice one game of the year for a year's worth of exposure that we got last year with the daily Buerhlemeter on Baseball Tonight. The first game won't make or break this season; the rotation always gets rotated around that it rarely ends up 1 v. 1 anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 09:49 PM) For schnitz and griddles Buehrle's FIRST start of the year (so not technically opening day, but I'm pretty sure his only non-opening day start was 2006) 2002 - 6 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 5 K (W) 2003 - 7 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 3 BB, 1 K (L) 2004 - 6.2 IP, 8 H, 3 R (2 ER), 1 BB, 1 K (ND, Sox lost) 2005 - 8 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 5 K (W) 2006 - 4 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 1 BB, 1 K (rain-delay halfway through, hence the lack of innings...Sox won) 2007 - 1.1 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 1 K (ND, Sox won) 2008 - 1.2 IP, 7 H, 7 R, 1 BB, 1 K (ND, Sox lost) 2009 - 5 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 3 BB, 3 K (ND, Sox won) 2010 - 7 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K (W) Totals - 46.2 IP, 41 H, 19 R (18 ER), 14 BB, 21 K Average - 5.1 IP, 4.5 H, 2 R, 1.6 BB, 2.3 K Peripherals - 3.47 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, 2.7 BB/9, 4 K/9 I would say that the notion that Buehrle has been a bad opening day starter is way overblown. In fact, I would argue that, outside of 2 starts, he's been exceptional on Opening Day. And of those two, he was hurt in one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeavyTime Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 2007 wasn't Opening Day. Contreras got it and I'm pissed to this day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 09:49 PM) For schnitz and griddles Buehrle's FIRST start of the year (so not technically opening day, but I'm pretty sure his only non-opening day start was 2006) 2002 - 6 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 5 K (W) 2003 - 7 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 3 BB, 1 K (L) 2004 - 6.2 IP, 8 H, 3 R (2 ER), 1 BB, 1 K (ND, Sox lost) 2005 - 8 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 5 K (W) 2006 - 4 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 1 BB, 1 K (rain-delay halfway through, hence the lack of innings...Sox won) 2007 - 1.1 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 1 K (ND, Sox won) 2008 - 1.2 IP, 7 H, 7 R, 1 BB, 1 K (ND, Sox lost) 2009 - 5 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 3 BB, 3 K (ND, Sox won) 2010 - 7 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K (W) Totals - 46.2 IP, 41 H, 19 R (18 ER), 14 BB, 21 K Average - 5.1 IP, 4.5 H, 2 R, 1.6 BB, 2.3 K Peripherals - 3.47 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, 2.7 BB/9, 4 K/9 I would say that the notion that Buehrle has been a bad opening day starter is way overblown. In fact, I would argue that, outside of 2 starts, he's been exceptional on Opening Day. Damn you and your evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 05:54 PM) Pretty much unless Buerhle falls off of a cliff, he will be the opening day starter as long as he is here. This, and it should be obvious to everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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