JPN366 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 7, 2011 -> 10:16 AM) He should still know better than that. You learn how to play baseball the right way when you start playing highly competitive baseball, which he has since 10 years old probably. Obviously he still needs work in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Trevor Bauer throws 9 different pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 (edited) Harper is a guy who said he wants to be known as a better person more than as a good baseball player. Walk the walk, kid. Edited June 7, 2011 by flavum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Hope he doesn't mind playing with bruised ribs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHITESOXRANDY Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Obviously he still needs work in that area. They should immediately move that kid up. He's bored and just messing with this league. He's ready. Move him up. The kid is gonna be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jun 7, 2011 -> 10:14 AM) He is still only 18. And? He's a whopping 3 days older than me, I wouldn't do that s***. Bryce Harper still thinks he's in high school or college. where retaliation will never fall on his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 7, 2011 -> 08:06 PM) And? He's a whopping 3 days older than me, I wouldn't do that s***. Bryce Harper still thinks he's in high school or college. where retaliation will never fall on his head. The difference is he's a superstar and has always been a superstar. He's never faced anyone as good as him at baseball. That changes how you act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 QUOTE (danman31 @ Jun 7, 2011 -> 11:49 PM) The difference is he's a superstar and has always been a superstar. He's never faced anyone as good as him at baseball. That changes how you act. Hence why he believes there will never be consequences or retaliation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 My second all-time favorite player is Barry Bonds. So I obviously don't have a problem with doucheiness (I know that's not a word) as long as you can play. This is overblown. It just goes to show you how much s*** has changed. This was an 18-year old in a single A game that was more than likely just messing around. But with MUCH more extensive media coverage and twitter and facebook and everything else we've got out there, the smallest things get overhyped. I've seen Pujols, Ramirez, Griffey and many other great players stand and admire their HRs. Look at f***ing Sammy Sosa. This is no big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 8, 2011 -> 07:09 AM) My second all-time favorite player is Barry Bonds. So I obviously don't have a problem with doucheiness (I know that's not a word) as long as you can play. This is overblown. It just goes to show you how much s*** has changed. This was an 18-year old in a single A game that was more than likely just messing around. But with MUCH more extensive media coverage and twitter and facebook and everything else we've got out there, the smallest things get overhyped. I've seen Pujols, Ramirez, Griffey and many other great players stand and admire their HRs. Look at f***ing Sammy Sosa. This is no big deal. 3 of the 5 guys you compared him to wound up having to cheat in a way they probably can't any more in order to get to that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 8, 2011 -> 06:09 AM) My second all-time favorite player is Barry Bonds. So I obviously don't have a problem with doucheiness (I know that's not a word) as long as you can play. This is overblown. It just goes to show you how much s*** has changed. This was an 18-year old in a single A game that was more than likely just messing around. But with MUCH more extensive media coverage and twitter and facebook and everything else we've got out there, the smallest things get overhyped. I've seen Pujols, Ramirez, Griffey and many other great players stand and admire their HRs. Look at f***ing Sammy Sosa. This is no big deal. Sure the game has changed. If he had tried that in the past, someone would have hit him in the head with the very next pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 QUOTE (danman31 @ Jun 7, 2011 -> 11:49 PM) The difference is he's a superstar and has always been a superstar. He's never faced anyone as good as him at baseball. That changes how you act. And talents like that usually don't end up doing in the majors what everyone thinks they will, and for that exact reason. This is something often ignored, but its a huge point... if you've never had to work at it, and never had to act like a pro... what happens when you finally reach a level where there is real competition to your talent? A lot of players hit that point and struggle mightily. Harper is not a 100% guarantee to be an all-star, no minor-leaguer or draft pick is, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayelBurton Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Ozzie Chavez released Michael Restonavich activated from DL Chase Cooney activated from DL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 This is a little off topic, since he's in the majors now.... ...but going into this year, how highly regarded has Wilson Ramos been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 It's good to see the White Sox made the right call giving Stefan Gartrell away for practically nothing. He's raking for Gwinnett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 KW Jr. now batting 7th, still not low enough in the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jun 8, 2011 -> 11:55 AM) This is a little off topic, since he's in the majors now.... ...but going into this year, how highly regarded has Wilson Ramos been? Was one of the Twins top prospects before he was traded to the Nats. As I recall, there were no questions about his defense, but concerns about his bat. QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jun 8, 2011 -> 03:03 PM) It's good to see the White Sox made the right call giving Stefan Gartrell away for practically nothing. He's raking for Gwinnett. Carlos Quentin Dayan Viciedo Brent Lillibridge Mark Teahen Alex Rios Juan Pierre Alejandro De Aza Jordan Danks Lastings Milledge Those are players I would rather see play in a major league game in the outfield over Stefan Gartrell. The White Sox did him a favor, and if he can make it to the majors with another organization, then good for him. (I may have honestly missed someone. I don't care. That's how much I miss Stefan Gartrell) QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jun 8, 2011 -> 03:06 PM) KW Jr. now batting 7th, still not low enough in the order. Do you not like Ken Williams Jr? /obvious? --- I had a friend who watched him play in Omaha for Wichita State and he said he was by far the fastest player on the field. That team included Andy Dirks, who stole 55 of 68 bases in the minors, as well as a few other players who are in major league organizations. If you do believe he is really, actually, honestly that slow, I want to see a bit of video proof. KW Sr. had 8 triples with a .218 BA and a .121 Iso at the MLB level to go along with 29 triples and 142 steals in 208 attempts in the minors (I get it, bad percentage - nobody gave a s*** about that back then). Oh, and another son (I think he has 3, though I may be mistaken), Kyle, was drafted by the San Francisco 49ers to be pretty much a kick returner. Mendel tells us that genes are transferred from parent to child. Unless Williams Jr is hiding something injury wise (which is certainly possible - I don't think he is the most durable player in the world), me thinks either you are lying or the dude can't get out of the box. Edited June 9, 2011 by witesoxfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 9, 2011 -> 08:28 AM) Was one of the Twins top prospects before he was traded to the Nats. As I recall, there were no questions about his defense, but concerns about his bat. Carlos Quentin Dayan Viciedo Brent Lillibridge Mark Teahen Alex Rios Juan Pierre Alejandro De Aza Jordan Danks Lastings Milledge Those are players I would rather see play in a major league game in the outfield over Stefan Gartrell. The White Sox did him a favor, and if he can make it to the majors with another organization, then good for him. (I may have honestly missed someone. I don't care. That's how much I miss Stefan Gartrell) Do you not like Ken Williams Jr? /obvious? --- I had a friend who watched him play in Omaha for Wichita State and he said he was by far the fastest player on the field. That team included Andy Dirks, who stole 55 of 68 bases in the minors, as well as a few other players who are in major league organizations. If you do believe he is really, actually, honestly that slow, I want to see a bit of video proof. KW Sr. had 8 triples with a .218 BA and a .121 Iso at the MLB level to go along with 29 triples and 142 steals in 208 attempts in the minors (I get it, bad percentage - nobody gave a s*** about that back then). Oh, and another son (I think he has 3, though I may be mistaken), Kyle, was drafted by the San Francisco 49ers to be pretty much a kick returner. Mendel tells us that genes are transferred from parent to child. Unless Williams Jr is hiding something injury wise (which is certainly possible - I don't think he is the most durable player in the world), me thinks either you are lying or the dude can't get out of the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 (edited) He must've been slowed by leg injuries over the past few years. He's slower than the back up catcher. He looks like he's got lead in his legs and feet. It's not a lack of hustle, he's running as hard as he can. He's just not quick at all. But, what do I know? I must be hallucinating when I'm at the Barons games. I was willing to be proven wrong about him, but he's worse than I had imagined. Edited June 9, 2011 by JPN366 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayelBurton Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Wes Whisler re-assigned to Charlotte after 5.0IP scoreless over his last 5 apperances for Kannapolis as a left-handed specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 QUOTE (LayelBurton @ Jun 9, 2011 -> 10:43 AM) Wes Whisler re-assigned to Charlotte after 5.0IP scoreless over his last 5 apperances for Kannapolis as a left-handed specialist. I wasn't even an alcoholic when this guy was drafted. That's how long it's been. At what point can he be dismissed as AAAA fodder? He's still brought up around these parts fairly regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 9, 2011 -> 10:48 AM) I wasn't even an alcoholic when this guy was drafted. That's how long it's been. At what point can he be dismissed as AAAA fodder? He's still brought up around these parts fairly regularly. He is being assigned to AAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 I've always passed along what I saw, good or bad. It's thoroughly insulting to imply I'm lying about what I see first hand. I see it this year, your friend saw it 3 or 4 years ago. I desperately wanted to see KW Jr. succeed and be productive, so that the playing time was justified. The reality is that he is simply not good, and is either overmatched or out of his element at AA. It's difficult to take video when he's never on base. Duane Shafer's kid got way too much playing time in Birmingham 9 and 10 years ago, he was awful. This is nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jun 9, 2011 -> 10:52 AM) I've always passed along what I saw, good or bad. It's thoroughly insulting to imply I'm lying about what I see first hand. I see it this year, your friend saw it 3 or 4 years ago. I desperately wanted to see KW Jr. succeed and be productive, so that the playing time was justified. The reality is that he is simply not good, and is either overmatched or out of his element at AA. It's difficult to take video when he's never on base. Duane Shafer's kid got way too much playing time in Birmingham 9 and 10 years ago, he was awful. This is nothing new. Um, who are you talking to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 9, 2011 -> 10:52 AM) He is being assigned to AAA. Yeah, I saw that. My question was at what point can he finally be dismissed? Dude was drafted in '04. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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