Seems pretty clear now, to me anyway, that the service time is the issue.

 

If we know the exact day, let's rename this as a countdown thread.

 

Something like: T-Minus 12 days to Viciedo blastoff! (maybe)

Yea he quote was reffering to Pierre.

 

Ozzie saying 'as long as he is here' puts it on Kenny to DFA him!

Why doesn't 'as long as he is here' translate to Lillibridge getting most starts in LF? After all he can actually play defense and swipe a bag or two. What exactly does Pierre offer? I'm mean, as long as Lillibridge is here he should be getting most starts over Pierre. Isn't that obvious to anyone with half a brain?

66 ABs vs 285.

 

Or 76 plate appearances vs 322

A month on the DL.

Why doesn't 'as long as he is here' translate to Lillibridge getting most starts in LF? After all he can actually play defense and swipe a bag or two. What exactly does Pierre offer? I'm mean, as long as Lillibridge is here he should be getting most starts over Pierre. Isn't that obvious to anyone with half a brain?

You can make the argument, and some here do, that the stealth elf gets exposed the more at bats he gets.

 

That said...the fact that he is performing means "let's expose what his limits are and stop protecting him from success" is a reasonable conclusion.

A month on the DL.

220 PAs = one month on the DL?

220 PAs = one month on the DL?

Yes. According to Balta, Teahen and Pierre would have approximately the same number of plate appearances at this point if it weren't for the short DL stint for Teahen.

Is it really so bad that we're pining for Mark Teahen to get AB's?

Is it really so bad that we're pining for Mark Teahen to get AB's?

Just shooting down the faulty logic of "If he's here we have to play him". It's obviously a lame excuse that doesn't fly.

Just shooting down the faulty logic of "If he's here we have to play him". It's obviously a lame excuse that doesn't fly.

You're missing my point.

 

I'm ripping Ozzie for playing Teahen at 3b last night.

Yes. According to Balta, Teahen and Pierre would have approximately the same number of plate appearances at this point if it weren't for the short DL stint for Teahen.

 

OK, I wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something.

Update: Pierre's ISO is now down to .042 just 1 point off last year's record tying pace when he sported the lowest ISO for an Outfielder since 1920. It's also been 2 weeks since he last stole a base, he's 1-2 for the month of June.

Update: Pierre's ISO is now down to .042 just 1 point off last year's record tying pace when he sported the lowest ISO for an Outfielder since 1920. It's also been 2 weeks since he last stole a base, he's 1-2 for the month of June.

But if he's here we have to play him. After all, he is an investment that the Sox made.

But if he's here we have to play him. After all, he is an investment that the Sox made.

I think I just threw up some of my dinner from last night.

Yum. Meat.

But if he's here we have to play him. After all, he is an investment that the Sox made.

You are also forgetting how he arrives to the park at 11 a.m. before anyone else, gels well with his teammates and often leaves the park after everyone else.

You are also forgetting how he arrives to the park at 11 a.m. before anyone else, gels well with his teammates and often leaves the park after everyone else.

Maybe that's why he lost his speed. He's exhausted from running 6 hours before each game.

Maybe that's why he lost his speed. He's exhausted from running 6 hours before each game.

That's probably it! LOL Too many pre-game wind sprints.

That's probably it! LOL Too many pre-game wind sprints.

 

It would also explain his weak grounders in each at bat. The guy is simply out of gas by the time it's first pitch.

At this point in my career, if I was Pierre, I would just be thinking to myself that it's time to do this different. He should try putting on some muscle, pick up a heavier bat; something that could perhaps extend his career. He has always made contact, perhaps with some muscle those weak grounders will find their way through..........or maybe they'll just be hit harder to the second baseman.

 

He sure as hell isn't making much more off of this whole, speedy slappy grindy approach he has had for his career prior to the WhiteSox.

Edited June 21, 201114 yr by Flash Tizzle

By the way, I never want to hear anyone say that Rios is giving it his all. That guy never runs out grounders. It's like watching Konerko run one out, but at least PK has the legitimate excuse of being just about the slowest player in the majors.

By the way, I never want to hear anyone say that Rios is giving it his all. That guy never runs out grounders. It's like watching Konerko run one out, but at least PK has the legitimate excuse of being just about the slowest player in the majors.

seemed to me he was dogging it on that popout and could have easily doubled up the runner on 1st last nite

seemed to me he was dogging it on that popout and could have easily doubled up the runner on 1st last nite

 

I didn't even notice that. I was thinking of a groundout that happened yesterday (or maybe it was the day before, honestly a lot of this season is compacted together in my mind).

It's obvious Rios is one of the biggest busts in recent Sox history and I highly doubt he'll turn things around.

seemed to me he was dogging it on that popout and could have easily doubled up the runner on 1st last nite

 

He wasn't paying any attention to the runner. That was his problem.

At the game, it appeared Rios was limping after the play.

It's obvious Rios is one of the biggest busts in recent Sox history and I highly doubt he'll turn things around.

 

fathom will hate me for this. But the summer of '09 set this franchise back at least 5 years.