Welp I won a T shirt from Joe Cowley lol

 

Good job, as much as Cowley sucks, some of the slogans today were priceless! #appreciate the game !

Good job, as much as Cowley sucks, some of the slogans today were priceless! #appreciate the game !

 

Yeah there were some good ones. A ton of people were sending in their slogans .

 

Mine was Kenny Williams is calling Brad Pitt for trade advice #AppreciatetheGame

This year's Verducci effect article is out, and the White Sox take 2 of the spots on it, with Axelrod at #2 and Stewart just barely making the list. I had no idea the Sox had jumped Axelrod's innings by 60 last year.

 

I know he knows it's not scientific, but I do remember when he came out with this. It may be something I do over the next 2 weeks or so, but if anyone else has done it, I'd like to see some sort of working percentage within this group. Injuries, regression, progression, stability...anything. It's a decent guideline to follow, and it makes sense in a lot of regards, but there's obviously more to it than that, because CJ Wilson, not even caring about age, jumped 130 innings in 2010 and he was much better this year. Derek Lowe made a similar transition and he was mediocre in his second year and awful in his third year of the transition, but he's been generally fine ever since.

 

My hypothesis is that it has no statistically significant effect, but that there may be certain characteristics that can be traced to it.

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I know he knows it's not scientific, but I do remember when he came out with this. It may be something I do over the next 2 weeks or so, but if anyone else has done it, I'd like to see some sort of working percentage within this group. Injuries, regression, progression, stability...anything. It's a decent guideline to follow, and it makes sense in a lot of regards, but there's obviously more to it than that, because CJ Wilson, not even caring about age, jumped 130 innings in 2010 and he was much better this year. Derek Lowe made a similar transition and he was mediocre in his second year and awful in his third year of the transition, but he's been generally fine ever since.

 

My hypothesis is that it has no statistically significant effect, but that there may be certain characteristics that can be traced to it.

Read his article, he includes some of those numbers.

I know he knows it's not scientific, but I do remember when he came out with this. It may be something I do over the next 2 weeks or so, but if anyone else has done it, I'd like to see some sort of working percentage within this group. Injuries, regression, progression, stability...anything. It's a decent guideline to follow, and it makes sense in a lot of regards, but there's obviously more to it than that, because CJ Wilson, not even caring about age, jumped 130 innings in 2010 and he was much better this year. Derek Lowe made a similar transition and he was mediocre in his second year and awful in his third year of the transition, but he's been generally fine ever since.

 

My hypothesis is that it has no statistically significant effect, but that there may be certain characteristics that can be traced to it.

Part of the problem is that he uses ERA as a measuring stick, and we all know how notoriously flawed that particular metric is. Additionally, I've never seen any information about a control group (i.e. what is the likelihood of regression/injury from players off that list?). The age factor also seems rather arbitrary, and I'm not sure I buy into the idea that major league innings are more stressful in any physical sense just because some ML manager thinks so. We all know that baseball lifers tend to be less than pragmatic.

When i get to chitown lets make one thing clear what happenlast day whit the sox stay tune

— Ozzie Guillen (@OzzieGuillen) January 20, 2012

Iam out the country now but i never quit in anything yes be ready when i talk going to be fun

— Ozzie Guillen (@OzzieGuillen) January 20, 2012

I will kill peoples fellings no mercy i turn the page but they no let me a long then get ready going to be bad

— Ozzie Guillen (@OzzieGuillen) January 20, 2012

When i get to chitown lets make one thing clear what happenlast day whit the sox stay tune

— Ozzie Guillen (@OzzieGuillen) January 20, 2012

Iam out the country now but i never quit in anything yes be ready when i talk going to be fun

— Ozzie Guillen (@OzzieGuillen) January 20, 2012

I will kill peoples fellings no mercy i turn the page but they no let me a long then get ready going to be bad

— Ozzie Guillen (@OzzieGuillen) January 20, 2012

 

http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?s=...t&p=2538150

January 20th seems like a long time to go without signing a major league free agent.

January 20th seems like a long time to go without signing a major league free agent.

 

Is that in reference to the Sox, or that Fielder hasn't been signed yet?

Sox.

January 20th seems like a long time to go without signing a major league free agent.

 

Probably have to wait a few years before that happens again.

 

 

Bob

The guy that runs baseball-reference.com was on Clubhouse Confidential the other day, and mentioned that there are "easter eggs" on the site, and he mentioned the Mendoza Line.

 

So I just put in Mendoza Line in as a player, and it automatically took me to Adam Dunn's player page.

 

Very Funny.

Chuck Garfien

@ChuckGarfien

Looks like a slimmer Adam Dunn will be at Sox Fest next week. Heard he's lost 30 pounds.

 

Chuck Garfien

@ChuckGarfien

Looks like a slimmer Adam Dunn will be at Sox Fest next week. Heard he's lost 30 pounds.

Cue the "best shape of his life" articles.

Cue the "best shape of his life" articles.

Rather get those than "Adam Dunn looks like Bobby Jenks".

Chuck Garfien

@ChuckGarfien

Looks like a slimmer Adam Dunn will be at Sox Fest next week. Heard he's lost 30 pounds.

At least he'll look better walking back to the dugout after another whiff.

Cue the "best shape of his life" articles.

 

Yeah, but ones that include something quantifiable are cool with me. Saying he lost 30 pounds can be proved or disproved. It's the articles that say "Feels great" or "Feels in the best shape of his life" or "Has a new outlook" or something are stupid and fluffy.

 

If Adam really lost 30 pounds, and that should be quite noticeable, then I think this is great news.

It's going to take quite the bounceback for me to ever like Adam Dunn again.

It's going to take quite the bounceback for me to ever like Adam Dunn again.

 

I never stopped liking him. I have complete faith in that dude.

Yeah, but ones that include something quantifiable are cool with me. Saying he lost 30 pounds can be proved or disproved. It's the articles that say "Feels great" or "Feels in the best shape of his life" or "Has a new outlook" or something are stupid and fluffy.

 

If Adam really lost 30 pounds, and that should be quite noticeable, then I think this is great news.

Dude was fat when he was good too. If he did indeed lose the weight it's nice that he seemingly has dedicated himself to getting back to form but who knows how the weight loss will effect his swing, power, etc...

Dude was fat when he was good too. If he did indeed lose the weight it's nice that he seemingly has dedicated himself to getting back to form but who knows how the weight loss will effect his swing, power, etc...

 

Can't say he's not making an effort. It'd be nice if he'd air all of his dirty laundry on Twitter, though, so that way we know what's really going on.

Dude was fat when he was good too. If he did indeed lose the weight it's nice that he seemingly has dedicated himself to getting back to form but who knows how the weight loss will effect his swing, power, etc...

 

I'm not saying losing 30 lbs will make him good again, but it's a sign he is working hard and trying to improve. He could easily just do nothing and hope it turns around.

 

And I am sure losing 30 lbs won't HURT at least, at least. Maybe even makes him a half-step faster! haha.

Can't say he's not making an effort. It'd be nice if he'd air all of his dirty laundry on Twitter, though, so that way we know what's really going on.

 

First part is exactly the point, especially after so many people took his off season routine completely out of context and had conniption fits about it.

 

The second part is just awesomeness.

I'm not saying losing 30 lbs will make him good again, but it's a sign he is working hard and trying to improve. He could easily just do nothing and hope it turns around.

 

And I am sure losing 30 lbs won't HURT at least, at least. Maybe even makes him a half-step faster! haha.

I agree. I'm just not interested in the 80 offseason articles that go along with it nor will I believe he can hit a baseball again until I see him hit a baseball...

Dunn's season was a perfect storm. Conditioning was well down the list of what was wrong. There is more reason to think he's declining than 2011 was an aberration.