I thought Fielder to M's.

Marlins are bidding on him. I dont see the Cubs pulling down anyone, that cant even afford to keep Carlos Pena.

Unless we are signing a 30-year mortgage like the Pirates...ughhh.

 

That thought literally terrifies me.

Marlins are bidding on him. I dont see the Cubs pulling down anyone, that cant even afford to keep Carlos Pena.

 

Who said that they couldn't keep Pena? Fielder is the person all along I though the Cubs would get.

Who said that they couldn't keep Pena? Fielder is the person all along I though the Cubs would get.

 

Not sure if this was posted but a source being Pricne's friend said he is very interested in the Cubs as well.

Who said that they couldn't keep Pena? Fielder is the person all along I though the Cubs would get.

I thought I heard that since he declined arb that they thought they couldnt fit him into the budget. Same time it was said that the Cubs werent really pursuing Prince.

 

 

https://twitter.com/#!/PWSullivan/statu...519768244879360

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That thought literally terrifies me.

Me too. That's why it's hard for me to embrace a full rebuild, even though I know the alternative could be much, much worse in the end. You never know how long it will be before you escape.

So Kenny comes to the meetings late, and is leaving early? Great...

Sad, but it's another sign of the incompetence of our GM.

 

Where are all the people on this board who said there will be a market for guys like Thornton, Quentin, Danks, and Floyd this offseason?

If KW wants to unload those guys, he will have no problem doing so. He's asking for the moon right now.

So Kenny comes to the meetings late, and is leaving early? Great...

 

Come on man... it's not like the guy has to physically be there to make a deal. If something comes up I'm sure he'll be all over it.

If KW wants to unload those guys, he will have no problem doing so. He's asking for the moon right now.

Which is what he should be doing on December 7th.

 

I'm not sure what the f*** you want, Dick...do you want him to get good prospects for these pieces or do you want him to just give them away?

 

For everyone crying about Santos not being shopped more, why the hell are you also crying that there has not been more trades made?

 

Make up your damned minds.

If KW wants to unload those guys, he will have no problem doing so. He's asking for the moon right now.

 

And he should ask for the moon and the sun too. Would everyone feel better if he gave them away for nothing? That's how negotiations go. Start high and work from a position of strength. Who knows... maybe a team will get desperate and give up something very good.

Unless we are signing a 30-year mortgage like the Pirates...ughhh.

Again--the fanbase asked for it and that will be what the fanbase gets.

Which is what he should be doing on December 7th.

 

I'm not sure what the f*** you want, Dick...do you want him to get good prospects for these pieces or do you want him to just give them away?

 

For everyone crying about Santos not being shopped more, why the hell are you also crying that there has not been more trades made?

 

Make up your damned minds.

You are misinterpreting my post. Again. Please look at what I was responding to and post again. There's nothing wrong for asking for an overpay. He claimed there was no market for these players. There obviously is one, but the bids are currently not anywhere near the offer.

Which is what he should be doing on December 7th.

 

I'm not sure what the f*** you want, Dick...do you want him to get good prospects for these pieces or do you want him to just give them away?

 

For everyone crying about Santos not being shopped more, why the hell are you also crying that there has not been more trades made?

 

Make up your damned minds.

 

 

As one who considers it basically General Manager negligence to (apparently) not have shopped Santos to any and all interested parties, I'm perfectly glad Kenny's itchy trigger finger hasn't caused him to take the first borderline offer on Danks, Floyd, Thornton, or Quentin. The "losers" in the Buehrle, Wilson, and Gio derbies will have a far greater incentive to do what it takes to go for either Danks or Floyd. Quentin best goes to somebody (anybody) who fears going into Spring Training without the thumper they think they need. It's called finding and making a market -- something that some of us believe (apparently) was NOT done with Santos.

 

Thornton is a toughie. His contract makes him a real luxury. Best guess is that he's either traded as an add-on to a deal involving one of the above, or, failing that, he's essentially given away for a PTBNL and salary relief.

You are misinterpreting my post. Again. Please look at what I was responding to and post again. There's nothing wrong for asking for an overpay. He claimed there was no market for these players. There obviously is one, but the bids are currently not anywhere near the offer.

I didn't misinterpret it, I just chose that moment to comment on your stance which I gathered from 2 or 3 different threads, as well as the posters who want these trades done now but also want maximum value.

 

Sorry, I shouldn't have bothered to quote that particular comment.

I didn't misinterpret it, I just chose that moment to comment on your stance which I gathered from 2 or 3 different threads, as well as the posters who want these trades done now but also want maximum value.

 

Sorry, I shouldn't have bothered to quote that particular comment.

You had my stance wrong, at least concerning KW's current asking price. I'm not faulting him for it. Some team will either panic or the price will come down. He can't f*** up these deals or the Sox will be bad for a long time. I do think KW needs to go, which I'm sure you don't agree with.

You had my stance wrong, at least concerning KW's current asking price. I'm not faulting him for it. Some team will either panic or the price will come down. He can't f*** up these deals or the Sox will be bad for a long time. I do think KW needs to go, which I'm sure you don't agree with.

No, I know your stance. Your stance is blatantly obvious. I can't wait to read you b****ing and moaning for the next 2 years. At least now maybe you can drop the budget conspiracy theories since you're no longer a season ticket holder.

No, I know your stance. Your stance is blatantly obvious. I can't wait to read you b****ing and moaning for the next 2 years. At least now maybe you can drop the budget conspiracy theories since you're no longer a season ticket holder.

Except I was correct about the budget and only complained about the payroll in 2009 when they raised season ticket prices and lowered payroll, when they had season ticketholders captive because of non refundable unused playoff ticket money. If you recall, your boy KW only had $.50 then and everything was priced at $1. The budget was already stretched. Then he traded for Jake Peavy and picked up Alex Rios on waivers. I did say I liked the Peavy move and would never criticize your precious KW for it, and never have. They "found" some money even though attendance was down. The next year they cried poor again. Attendance dropped again, then Edwin Jackson and his bloated salary is acquired and JR must have had some luck with his metal detector on Oak Street beach as KW was able to pick up Manny Ramirez for 1 month and $4 million after a steroid suspension to drive in 2 runs. The next offseason, now remember, your precious KW has always said everything coming in is spend and he only has $.50 when things cost $1, the Sox find some more money for Adam Dunn, bring back Konerko and AJ and have a team record payroll. JR finally admitted the team really doesn't spend every dime that comes in, they "save a little here, save a little there".

 

Say what you want, but the facts show my stance about White Sox finances was far more accurate than yours.

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I may be wrong, but I haven't heard a single rumor about Edwin Jackson this week.

Buster Olney saying Cubs might try to sign Prince to a 5/125 deal

Which is what he should be doing on December 7th.

 

I'm not sure what the f*** you want, Dick...do you want him to get good prospects for these pieces or do you want him to just give them away?

 

For everyone crying about Santos not being shopped more, why the hell are you also crying that there has not been more trades made?

 

Make up your damned minds.

 

Great point.

 

Except I was correct about the budget and only complained about the payroll in 2009 when they raised season ticket prices and lowered payroll, when they had season ticketholders captive because of non refundable unused playoff ticket money. If you recall, your boy KW only had $.50 then and everything was priced at $1. The budget was already stretched. Then he traded for Jake Peavy and picked up Alex Rios on waivers. I did say I liked the Peavy move and would never criticize your precious KW for it, and never have. They "found" some money even though attendance was down. The next year they cried poor again. Attendance dropped again, then Edwin Jackson and his bloated salary is acquired and JR must have had some luck with his metal detector on Oak Street beach as KW was able to pick up Manny Ramirez for 1 month and $4 million after a steroid suspension to drive in 2 runs. The next offseason, now remember, your precious KW has always said everything coming in is spend and he only has $.50 when things cost $1, the Sox find some more money for Adam Dunn, bring back Konerko and AJ and have a team record payroll. JR finally admitted the team really doesn't spend every dime that comes in, they "save a little here, save a little there".

 

Say what you want, but the facts show my stance about White Sox finances was far more accurate than yours.

 

For a while, I forgot about Manny being on the team.

Beckham still a possibility; might require Snider acc. to #WhiteSox source

@globlair

 

Beckham to Blue Jays for Snider?

@globlair

 

Beckham to Blue Jays for Snider?

 

Hmmm...who plays 2B? The Bridge and Escobar?

Beckham for Snider would be interesting trade. Couple of can't miss prospects who have missed and might need change of scenery.

Beckham for Snider would be interesting trade. Couple of can't miss prospects who have missed and might need change of scenery.

 

Indeed. I'm a fan. His twitter is pretty entertaining if you are a glutton.