December 5, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 01:49 PM) But imagine the package required for Gio. Danks would be much more attractive because you could get him for a lot less (which should still be a lot anyway). I realize that. But Gio is not a FA until 2016. If a team is going to part with top prospects, you're going to lean a lot more towards him I would imagine.
December 5, 201114 yr What teams are in on SS? I've been trying to ascertain that for the last 24 hours. Atlanta, S.F, Philly, Milwaukee, Boston, Ny Mets, Reds and STL Edited December 5, 201114 yr by SOXOBAMA
December 5, 201114 yr Danks is not as movable as many think. No team us give up a top prospect for one season of control. Even if he was under control as Floyd, he isn't that good to demain one top spect... to ask for 2 is downright luaghable.
December 5, 201114 yr Sign Alex Gonzalez or Betancourt on the cheap.. If we are going to rebuild, get rid of everyone and bring many top and mid level prospects in this organzation... With the current front office track record... How likely are the sox to get quality spects?
December 5, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 02:06 PM) Great, the thread's about to go down the drain. Needs more news or rumors. Or cowbell.
December 5, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 12:06 PM) Great, the thread's about to go down the drain. Until things actually start heating up - thus, giving us things to discuss.
December 5, 201114 yr QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 02:03 PM) Even if he was under control as Floyd, he isn't that good to demain one top spect... to ask for 2 is downright luaghable. If he were under control for even two years he'd command at least one top prospect. And by top prospect I mean consensus top 20ish or so. He still might now (long as you're not ridiculous). I agree that guys like Jesus Montero are pure fantasy. Edited December 5, 201114 yr by Jordan4life
December 5, 201114 yr QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 02:03 PM) Even if he was under control as Floyd, he isn't that good to demain one top spect... to ask for 2 is downright luaghable. No it isn't. GMs do it routinely.
December 5, 201114 yr If he were under control for even two years he'd command at least one top prospect. He still might now (long as you're not ridiculous). If Danks didn't have a down season, than I can see asking for a top spect, but KW is in no position to ask for anything close to what he would have last year this time trading Danks.
December 5, 201114 yr Author Its Monday, and the Sox are asking NYY for Banuelos and Montero in exchange for Danks. NYY says won't trade either. I'm guessing by Wednesday we'll hear he was traded for one of them. Also, although Danks is under control for 1 year, he has more value than that to a team like NYY. They are a team that could afford his next contract, and they get a 1-year control period to negotiate it, doing more direct analysis all the while.
December 5, 201114 yr Don't forget, under the new CBA, Danks has better odds of providing a team maximum compensation in the amateur draft should he declare himself a free agent at the end of the season. If KW can't receive a return in trade significantly better than the expected value of that draft compensation, then he should keep Danks.
December 5, 201114 yr Its Monday, and the Sox are asking NYY for Banuelos and Montero in exchange for Danks. NYY says won't trade either. I'm guessing by Wednesday we'll hear he was traded for one of them. Also, although Danks is under control for 1 year, he has more value than that to a team like NYY. They are a team that could afford his next contract, and they get a 1-year control period to negotiate it, doing more direct analysis all the while. I don't think the Yankees are even an trading partner.. Just a simple misdirection.
December 5, 201114 yr Its Monday, and the Sox are asking NYY for Banuelos and Montero in exchange for Danks. NYY says won't trade either. I'm guessing by Wednesday we'll hear he was traded for one of them. Also, although Danks is under control for 1 year, he has more value than that to a team like NYY. They are a team that could afford his next contract, and they get a 1-year control period to negotiate it, doing more direct analysis all the while. We should make it a bigger package. Danks/Thornton for Banuelos, Gary Sanchez, and Dante Bichette
December 5, 201114 yr We should make it a bigger package. Danks/Thornton for Banuelos, Gary Sanchez, and Dante Bichette He was just drafted, someone correct me if I am wrong.. but he can't get traded for 1 year?
December 5, 201114 yr QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 02:31 PM) He was just drafted, someone correct me if I am wrong.. but he can't get traded for 1 year? True.
December 5, 201114 yr He was just drafted, someone correct me if I am wrong.. but he can't get traded for 1 year? I thought the rules changed with the new CBA
December 5, 201114 yr We need a trade to happen so we can start saying how awful KW is, how he should have gotten a frozen lobster thrown into the deal, and that the Marlins are going to be so much better (they will be, but who cares!).
December 5, 201114 yr We need a trade to happen so we can start saying how awful KW is, how he should have gotten a frozen lobster thrown into the deal, and that the Marlins are going to be so much better (they will be, but who cares!). Marlins will still be in 4th place. Philly, Atl and Wash are much better teams
December 5, 201114 yr Marlins will still be in 4th place. Philly, Atl and Wash are much better teams Agree.. They need SP, they didn't need a Often-injuried SS.
December 5, 201114 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 02:36 PM) We need a trade to happen so we can start saying how awful KW is, how he should have gotten a frozen lobster thrown into the deal, and that the Marlins are going to be so much better (they will be, but who cares!). Jay Cowley tweeted earlier today that Florida and the Sox had been talking FWIW.
December 5, 201114 yr QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 02:32 PM) I thought the rules changed with the new CBA I believe that's for players drafted as a part of compensation for a free agent. I could be wrong though...too lazy to look it up.
December 5, 201114 yr Jay Cowley tweeted earlier today that Florida and the Sox had been talking FWIW. Floyd for Morrison?
December 5, 201114 yr Jay Cowley tweeted earlier today that Florida and the Sox had been talking FWIW. Ozzie for Danks?
December 5, 201114 yr QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 03:32 PM) True. Can be included as a PTBNL per the old CBA. Not sure if that has changed.
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