southsider2k5 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 18, 2011 -> 07:22 AM) Danks will cost at least $30 million more the next five years, but he still should bring back a nice return. IMO he winds up with the Yankees. Try at least doubling that number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 18, 2011 -> 02:34 AM) I feel like people constantly forget this. It really doesnt matter who is better, Danks or Latos or Gio. Danks is one year from free agency while the others are 3-4 years away. That makes such a difference and that's what it's all about when it comes to trade value nowadays. And how long are the guys the Reds gave up under Padres team control for? 6.5 years for the 2 kids and at least 2 years for Volquez? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 18, 2011 -> 01:47 PM) And how long are the guys the Reds gave up under Padres team control for? 6.5 years for the 2 kids and at least 2 years for Volquez? Volquez of the 5.71 era last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 18, 2011 -> 10:20 AM) Try at least doubling that number. Latos is going to be getting paid as well. I'd say my figure is fairly accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 18, 2011 -> 02:49 PM) Latos is going to be getting paid as well. I'd say my figure is fairly accurate. ~36 mill for 5 years? accurate? Did you not pay attention to the amount Mark Buehrle made? And here's one thing we can all agree on: Danks > Buehrle at this point. So......... Edited December 18, 2011 by Reddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Reddy @ Dec 18, 2011 -> 01:54 PM) ~36 mill for 5 years? accurate? Did you not pay attention to the amount Mark Buehrle made? And here's one thing we can all agree on: Danks > Buehrle at this point. So......... I would say over the next 5 years, Danks will average out to about $6 million a year more than Latos which is $30 million more expensive. Again, its not as if Latos will be making minimum for 5 years. He's going to get paid pretty well fairly soon. Edited December 19, 2011 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Getting Volquez away from Dusty Baker and into Petco is a double-bonus, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 18, 2011 -> 09:00 PM) I would say over the next 5 years, Danks will average out to about $6 million a year more than Latos which is $30 million more expensive. Again, its not as if Latos will be making minimum for 5 years. He's going to get paid pretty well fairly soon. ohhhkay 30 million MORE than Latos. on this you are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 18, 2011 -> 08:26 PM) Getting Volquez away from Dusty Baker and into Petco is a double-bonus, I think. Volquez has talent. He just needs to get his stuff under control. He still struck out nearly 9 per 9 last season. Plus, his HR/FB was abnormally high (20%), so I'm sure he'll be better off at Petco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 18, 2011 -> 11:02 PM) Volquez has talent. He just needs to get his stuff under control. He still struck out nearly 9 per 9 last season. Plus, his HR/FB was abnormally high (20%), so I'm sure he'll be better off at Petco. Daniel Cabrera had talent too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 QUOTE (Reddy @ Dec 18, 2011 -> 11:22 PM) Daniel Cabrera had talent too Daniel Cabrera never had the success Volquez did a couple of years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 19, 2011 -> 03:38 AM) Daniel Cabrera never had the success Volquez did a couple of years back. Volquez has had ONE good season out of what, 6 or 7? baseball is full of guys who were a flash in the pan and fizzled out. Remember how good Garland was one year? Remember how good Loaiza was one year? Remember how good Contreras was one year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 QUOTE (Reddy @ Dec 19, 2011 -> 09:46 AM) Volquez has had ONE good season out of what, 6 or 7? baseball is full of guys who were a flash in the pan and fizzled out. Remember how good Garland was one year? Remember how good Loaiza was one year? Remember how good Contreras was one year? Well, for Garland, the advanced stats say that he wasn't incredibly good one year, he was a solid pitcher for 3 years, with above average years before and after that, before starting to slow down last year. For Loaiza...there may have been some issues with the...chemistry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Am I mistaken or did Volquez blow out his arm a few years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Volquez also got busted for PEDs after his big year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 19, 2011 -> 12:52 PM) Am I mistaken or did Volquez blow out his arm a few years ago 08/03/09 6:29 PM ET CINCINNATI -- The type of elbow surgery that Reds starting pitcher Edinson Volquez needed on Monday was the one everyone feared. Volquez underwent Tommy John ligament replacement surgery to repair a torn ulnar collateral ligament and torn flexor mass in his right elbow. Dr. Tim Kremchek, the Reds' medical director, performed the 90-minute procedure. Volquez will likely miss 12 months, which wouldn't have him pitching again until late into the 2010 season, and that's being optimistic. "He will come back, I think, and pitch at some point next year in the second half," head trainer Mark Mann said. "But it will most likely be 2011 before you see the old Edinson Volquez." He was about 24 months from the surgery at the end of 2011, so it's certainly plausible that it hadn't recovered fully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 nickpiecoro Nick Piecoro GM Kevin Towers said he had an offer out to Hiroki Kuroda for "10 days to two weeks" but couldn't get a yes. Got tired of waiting around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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