59th street Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 When Danks returns do you send Quintana back down or is there another roster move that keeps him in Chicago? He has done an excellent job in all three of his opportunities. Hard to believe as he is a member of the WORST FARM SYSTEM IN THE HISTORY OF THE GALAXY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (59th street @ May 30, 2012 -> 02:39 PM) When Danks returns do you send Quintana back down or is there another roster move that keeps him in Chicago? He has done an excellent job in all three of his opportunities. Hard to believe as he is a member of the WORST FARM SYSTEM IN THE HISTORY OF THE GALAXY. If only kenny were more like that guy in toronto with the funny name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Andrewpopolis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatnom Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 We sure do like to bait here at Soxtalk. But, you absolutely send him down. With how fragile our starters are, we need somebody in the minors to be ready to step in for a spot start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I trust 2012 Quintana more than 2012 Danks right about now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I was thinking of a modified 6 man rotation. You give everyone periodic breaks for 1-2 starts with Quintana taking those starts. You keep everyone that is pitching on a 5 day schedule with one guy getting time off. You'd have to let go of Ohman or option Santana/Stewart to do it. Might be too hard to do or not worth f***ing around with Quintana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (Cali @ May 30, 2012 -> 04:57 PM) I trust 2012 Quintana more than 2012 Danks right about now... Or Floyd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatnom Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ May 30, 2012 -> 05:05 PM) I was thinking of a modified 6 man rotation. You give everyone periodic breaks for 1-2 starts with Quintana taking those starts. You keep everyone that is pitching on a 5 day schedule with one guy getting time off. You'd have to let go of Ohman or option Santana/Stewart to do it. Might be too hard to do or not worth f***ing around with Quintana. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here... It's been what, three starts? Granted, I haven't been able to watch any of them (turned the game on today right as he was making the pitch that got him thrown out), but there's no need to hamstring our roster because of three starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (gatnom @ May 30, 2012 -> 05:15 PM) Let's not get ahead of ourselves here... It's been what, three starts? Granted, I haven't been able to watch any of them (turned the game on today right as he was making the pitch that got him thrown out), but there's no need to hamstring our roster because of three starts. I don't think he's pitched so well that it's as if he MUST be on the roster. I do wonder if the Sox are eager to have a chance to reduce the innings workload on several of their starters, though. Being able to give Sale, Humber, Peavy periodic rest could be very beneficial...but again, I don't know if they want to bother with it and it could blow up in their face with one bad outing from Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 The 6 man rotation is a terrible idea for a team in contention. If you have to use Mr. Offday, or make use of the DL, or move a guy back and forth to give a starter some extra rest, I'd vastly prefer taht option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Trade Floyd for a 3B at deadline and have Quintana take his spot in the rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ May 30, 2012 -> 06:27 PM) Trade Floyd for a 3B at deadline and have Quintana take his spot in the rotation. Hmmm....that'd be risky, but I'd probably be ok with that. Floyd for Youk + Cash? Figure out a way to get David Wright? Michael Young? I don't know, but if we can get a real solid 3B, this team will be very dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (gatnom @ May 30, 2012 -> 05:56 PM) We sure do like to bait here at Soxtalk. But, you absolutely send him down. With how fragile our starters are, we need somebody in the minors to be ready to step in for a spot start. As a quality poster, you should feel proud that you are intelligent enough to recognize and disregard it. I salute you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ May 30, 2012 -> 06:31 PM) Hmmm....that'd be risky, but I'd probably be ok with that. Floyd for Youk + Cash? Figure out a way to get David Wright? Michael Young? I don't know, but if we can get a real solid 3B, this team will be very dangerous. The Mets have really no need for Gavin Floyd if they're trading Wright away, and the Rangers aren't going to "Help out another contender" (and I'm not sure you'd want Young at 3b anyway). I'd still hate to put Youkilis over at 3b and watch his body collapse more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (gatnom @ May 30, 2012 -> 05:56 PM) We sure do like to bait here at Soxtalk. But, you absolutely send him down. With how fragile our starters are, we need somebody in the minors to be ready to step in for a spot start. If he tears up AAA the whole year, then we have one nice cheap potential starter for next year waiting to take over a spot from either Floyd or Peavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ May 30, 2012 -> 05:31 PM) Hmmm....that'd be risky, but I'd probably be ok with that. Floyd for Youk + Cash? Figure out a way to get David Wright? Michael Young? I don't know, but if we can get a real solid 3B, this team will be very dangerous. The Mets are saying they are going to start talks with Wright soon, and the Rangers just signed Oswalt... I think Floyd will most likely stay until the end of the year unless someone gets crazy...like the O's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ May 30, 2012 -> 06:34 PM) The Mets are saying they are going to start talks with Wright soon, and the Rangers just signed Oswalt... I think Floyd will most likely stay until the end of the year unless someone gets crazy...like the O's... even if desperate, the O's wouldn't be likely to help out a team they might have to compete for 1 of the wild card spots with. If the Sox were giving up floyd for prospects that wouldn't help at the major league level sure, but they're not going to help "Fill the 3b hole". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 1. Wait till Floyd gets on one his domination runs. 2. Trade Floyd for a steep price. 3. Insert Quintana to rotation. 4. ???? 5. Profit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCangelosi Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Whats wrong with a 6 man rotation? We talked about it before? And I think almost everyone in the rotation benefits from the extra day. IMO this needs to be strongly considered, at least for a few more starts to see what Quintana is made of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 The true 6-man rotation for a long time--no way. Bad idea. A 20-day stretch without an off day, and you want to break it up by giving somebody a start? Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ May 30, 2012 -> 05:57 PM) Whats wrong with a 6 man rotation? We talked about it before? And I think almost everyone in the rotation benefits from the extra day. IMO this needs to be strongly considered, at least for a few more starts to see what Quintana is made of. And have Sale and Peavy start less games. No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) When is the last time a major league team sent down on any pitcher who had two starts with under a 2.00 ERA (combined) and had held right-handed batters to a 1/24 clip (0.042)? When someone is THAT effective against RHP, that's arguably more valuable than holding onto Ohman/Santiago. There's no reason not to let Santiago get some more work in the minors and get a better feel for his offspeed stuff and then bring him back up when/if Stewart and/or Quintana falter. And they're not just going to eat Ohman's salary. Even though it isn't a huge one. Robin was about to use him in the 8th inning in a key situation against Carlos Pena. He's not getting released/waived. Edited May 30, 2012 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (kev211 @ May 30, 2012 -> 06:02 PM) And have Sale and Peavy start less games. No thanks. You realize Sale pitching less is what we need to happen. 200 innings from him is potentially disastrous and reckless on our part. If we can limit his innings without making his individual starts shorter and without making him stop permanently in the middle of a pennant run, that'd be perfect. Peavy likely falls into this category too, along with Humber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ May 30, 2012 -> 06:05 PM) You realize Sale pitching less is what we need to happen. 200 innings from him is potentially disastrous and reckless on our part. If we can limit his innings without making his individual starts shorter and without making him stop permanently in the middle of a pennant run, that'd be perfect. Peavy likely falls into this category too, along with Humber. I don't actually think they should do this, but the thought came to me that maybe they should shut Sale down now until after the break. Keep Quintana going through interleague and the rest of the first half. If he's good, then maybe you feel comfortable trading Floyd. Then Sale gets 15 starts/100 innings in the second half. That would put him at 155-160 innings going into the postseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 QUOTE (flavum @ May 30, 2012 -> 06:14 PM) I don't actually think they should do this, but the thought came to me that maybe they should shut Sale down now until after the break. Keep Quintana going through interleague and the rest of the first half. If he's good, then maybe you feel comfortable trading Floyd. Then Sale gets 15 starts/100 innings in the second half. That would put him at 155-160 innings going into the postseason. I'd be interested in them finding some clever way to lessen the workload. I suppose this is what they make the big money for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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