balfanman Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 10:28 AM) Jordan Danks to give up #20 to Youk. Danks to wear #7 I thought that this was illegal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 11:28 AM) Jordan Danks to give up #20 to Youk. Danks to wear #7 Was that Youk's number in Boston? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (balfanman @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 11:31 AM) I thought that this was illegal? No, it would have been illegal for Danks (or anyone for that matter) to take #13. At least it would be illegal in Kansas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (balfanman @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 11:31 AM) I thought that this was illegal? No, it happens fairly often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 11:33 AM) Was that Youk's number in Boston? Yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balfanman Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 10:35 AM) No, it happens fairly often I realize that it used to, but I thought that they made a rule against doing that this year? Do you have to be in the league for so long first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (balfanman @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 11:38 AM) I realize that it used to, but I thought that they made a rule against doing that this year? Do you have to be in the league for so long first? I dont know about that. I guess if Danks was the one asking for the number maybe there would be something against it(although I dont know why), but Youkilis is asking for Danks #20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 11:27 AM) Boston... 1) Had to clear 3B for Middlebrooks full time 2) Had to get Gonzalez back at 1B, where he's most comfortable 3) Have to prepare for Ellsbury and Crawford to come back....so Gonzalez really was struggling offensively as well, partly because he was so uncomfortable and akward out there 4) You can't have their equivalent of Buehrle/Konerko, World Series hero, on the bench....he should be able to play everyday at his age still, it's a respect issue in the clubhouse, with the manager, with Pedroia/Ortiz, etc. A-Gon's been awful this year, what happened to him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmcochr Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (balfanman @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 11:38 AM) I realize that it used to, but I thought that they made a rule against doing that this year? Do you have to be in the league for so long first? From what I understand, the player changing numbers would be responsible to pay for the unsold merchandise bearing their name and number. I don't think many vendors have Danks #20 jerseys or shirts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmcochr Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Here is what I found on Uni Watch. Any big leaguer who wants to change uniform numbers without switching teams better give eight months’ notice unless he’s willing to buy warehouses full of his overstocked jerseys. … Players must tell the commissioner’s office by July 31 of the preceding year if they want a new jersey. That is, unless ‘the player (or someone on his behalf) purchases the existing finished goods inventory of apparel containing the player’s jersey number.’ As in, every replica jersey, jacket, T-shirt, mug and anything else with a number that’s anywhere in stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balfanman Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (TheBigHurtShallRiseAgain @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 10:42 AM) From what I understand, the player changing numbers would be responsible to pay for the unsold merchandise bearing their name and number. I don't think many vendors have Danks #20 jerseys or shirts. I guess that makes sense. In the case that Jordan Danks ever becomes really good, a Danks 20 Jersey could be a good investment now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (TheBigHurtShallRiseAgain @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 11:43 AM) Here is what I found on Uni Watch. Any big leaguer who wants to change uniform numbers without switching teams better give eight months’ notice unless he’s willing to buy warehouses full of his overstocked jerseys. … Players must tell the commissioner’s office by July 31 of the preceding year if they want a new jersey. That is, unless ‘the player (or someone on his behalf) purchases the existing finished goods inventory of apparel containing the player’s jersey number.’ As in, every replica jersey, jacket, T-shirt, mug and anything else with a number that’s anywhere in stock. I'm pretty sure there are like 2 Jordan Danks jerseys in those warehouses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) This trade was an absolute steal. Kevin Youkilis is still a very good 3B, and out of the rather toxic Boston environment, he should thrive. He's another bat in our lineup that is going to see a lot of pitches - he's really going to change the make-up of this offense. This will go down as one of Kenny's best moves, up there with Jose Contreras and snagging Freddy mid-season for chump change. Kenny's getting his groove back. I am still shocked at the price. Yes, apparently the White Sox were the only suitor here, but to give up nothing when our glaring weakness at 3B is so large is incredible. From the sounds of it, there was interest from LA but Youk preferred Chicago, and Boston ownership gave him what he wanted. I am stoked. Edited June 25, 2012 by Steve9347 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I think that even in a best case scenario for the players received by Boston and something close the worst case scenario for Youkilis, this is still the right deal. My guess is it will resemble the Swisher to NY trade, it at least resembles it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bigruss Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 11:44 AM) I'm pretty sure there are like 2 Jordan Danks jerseys in those warehouses. Obviously because they are flying off the shelves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Its hard to be upset about a trade where the Bridge is the best piece you gave up. That being said, good luck to him, he always gave it his all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 11:53 AM) This trade was an absolute steal. Kevin Youkilis is still a very good 3B, and out of the rather toxic Boston environment, he should thrive. He's another bat in our lineup that is going to see a lot of pitches - he's really going to change the make-up of this offense. This will go down as one of Kenny's best moves, up there with Jose Contreras and snagging Freddy mid-season for chump change. Kenny's getting his groove back. I am still shocked at the price. Yes, apparently the White Sox were the only suitor here, but to give up nothing when our glaring weakness at 3B is so large is incredible. From the sounds of it, there was interest from LA but Youk preferred Chicago, and Boston ownership gave him what he wanted. I am stoked. This. Youk at 80% >>>>>>>> Odog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 How many minutes before we credit YOUK for giving someone in our line-up better pitches to hit..."his mere presence in the line-up alone makes the White Sox five wins better..." Remember when Manny Ramirez came to town and we were trying to stretch every one of his at-bats into a positive? Well, hopefully the OPS will be closer to 750 than 550. I think it's reasonable to expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 12:04 PM) Remember when Manny Ramirez came to town and we were trying to stretch every one of his at-bats into a positive? You're confusing Soxtalk with Ken Harrelson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 12:05 PM) You're confusing Soxtalk with Ken Harrelson. Actually Manny was given credit on Soxtalk for a couple of HRs other players hit. As far as Youkilis, its pretty rare a guy who is being paid more by a team that he doesn't play for than by the team he plays for, contributes much. He obviously doesn't have to do much to be an upgrade, but anyone thinking Youkilis hopped in a time machine and its 2008 again, will probably be dissappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 12:18 PM) Actually Manny was given credit on Soxtalk for a couple of HRs other players hit. Yeah, because Hawk pointed it out a million times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 12:18 PM) Actually Manny was given credit on Soxtalk for a couple of HRs other players hit. As far as Youkilis, its pretty rare a guy who is being paid more by a team that he doesn't play for than by the team he plays for, contributes much. He obviously doesn't have to do much to be an upgrade, but anyone thinking Youkilis hopped in a time machine and its 2008 again, will probably be dissappointed. I'm not expecting 2008, but his 2011 is a Central Division Championship this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 10:40 AM) A-Gon's been awful this year, what happened to him? Position changes (sometimes) mess with players' confidence and/or stunt their development. KW, Adam Dunn, maybe Gordo to name a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jun 25, 2012 -> 12:26 PM) Position changes (sometimes) mess with players' confidence and/or stunt their development. KW, Adam Dunn, maybe Gordo to name a few. He's played mostly 1b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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