2nd_city_saint787 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Ya, I never understood why everyone hates Nate. He's the spark plug the bench needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Dec 24, 2012 -> 02:01 PM) Ya, I never understood why everyone hates Nate. He's the spark plug the bench needs. Actually, I get the hate for him. He's extremely inconsistent, which means you watch him and he'll make some incredibly boneheaded plays, plays that are bad enough you look back and say "Nate cost us the game there". But the benefit is...he also occasionally helps you win a game or two. This Bulls team, AFAIK, is basically trying to tread water until #1 can return, and an extremely inconsistent guy who can occasionally help you win a game isn't the worst fill-in I can imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Dec 24, 2012 -> 11:01 AM) Ya, I never understood why everyone hates Nate. He's the spark plug the bench needs. Nate is what he is. You use him for a couple minutes and you'll see what sort of night he will have. He can be very productive and very unproductive but as long as you are smart in how you manage it, he's a great option. Say you fall down 15 points, I'd throw Nate out there and see if he could get hot (that has value). But in no way is anyone going to get me to buy into a fact that Nate is playing better defense then Hinrich. Per is such a flawed stat anyway. I'm not saying either are very good but when Rose gets back, Hinrich is the better supporting player. And in no way am I implying Hinrich is good. Hinrich also started brutally but has been coming along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 24, 2012 -> 01:11 PM) Nate is what he is. You use him for a couple minutes and you'll see what sort of night he will have. He can be very productive and very unproductive but as long as you are smart in how you manage it, he's a great option. Say you fall down 15 points, I'd throw Nate out there and see if he could get hot (that has value). But in no way is anyone going to get me to buy into a fact that Nate is playing better defense then Hinrich. Per is such a flawed stat anyway. I'm not saying either are very good but when Rose gets back, Hinrich is the better supporting player. And in no way am I implying Hinrich is good. Hinrich also started brutally but has been coming along. I didn't even use PER to calculate how bad Hinrich is defensively. I used Drtg which is a pretty good indicator on whether or not the guy you're lining up against is scoring on you. It says that both Hinrich and Robinson are below average defensively(average being 100). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Saying Nate is a black hole and not an integral piece doesn't mean I'm throwing my full support behind Hinrich. He has been absolutely awful, there is no mistaking that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 For Boers and Bernstein fans their has been a TON of By Cracky going on in the last couple pages of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Man, I was totally wrong about Asik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 WTF is up with the Bulls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 25, 2012 -> 08:41 PM) Man, I was totally wrong about Asik. He's still not good offensively, but he's at least acceptable now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 25, 2012 -> 08:49 PM) He's still not good offensively, but he's at least acceptable now. I thought he was a scrub who simply took up space and could block a shot here and there for 12 minutes before he inevitably succumbed to excessive sweat and fatigue. Dude is a legit starting C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Everyone knew he could defend and rebound. To me, the biggest thing is he's drastically cut his foul rate. I figured that'd limit him to closer to 25 MPG. He's still not a good offensive player, he's a mediocre finisher with a very high turnover rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Dec 25, 2012 -> 09:40 PM) Everyone knew he could defend and rebound. To me, the biggest thing is he's drastically cut his foul rate. I figured that'd limit him to closer to 25 MPG. He's still not a good offensive player, he's a mediocre finisher with a very high turnover rate. By far the biggest key with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Asik and Destroy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 26, 2012 -> 05:53 AM) Asik and Destroy Where'd he learn to catch the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Dec 25, 2012 -> 07:40 PM) Everyone knew he could defend and rebound. To me, the biggest thing is he's drastically cut his foul rate. I figured that'd limit him to closer to 25 MPG. He's still not a good offensive player, he's a mediocre finisher with a very high turnover rate. His footwork was much improved out there. He actually made a few offensive plays. 20 and 18 is sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Bulls @ Pacers postponed per IndyStar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 26, 2012 -> 03:14 PM) Bulls @ Pacers postponed per IndyStar. Pacers must have been too scared after watching that dominating peformance last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 26, 2012 -> 03:20 PM) Pacers must have been too scared after watching that dominating peformance last night. Most people have to pay to get dominated like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 could have sworn they play basketball indoors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 could have sworn they play basketball indoors Yes, but they also play it with both teams in the same city. You try getting from Chicago to Indy today and let me know how that works for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 26, 2012 -> 04:29 PM) Yes, but they also play it with both teams in the same city. You try getting from Chicago to Indy today and let me know how that works for you. @KCJHoop Bulls are at Conseco Fieldhouse, waiting for word. Both teams have offday tomorrow. Not saying that's when game is. I am mainly joking, as I realize its a huge blizzard there - fans can't get there, and i get that. not the first time this has happened, though i recall a couple of games the bulls played in cleveland and minnesota when there were like 400 ppl at the game due to blizzard conditions Edited December 26, 2012 by daa84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I'd like to take a moment and thank the weather for not letting the Bulls play tonight. Us fans truly appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Avery Johnson...He Gone D-Will force another coach out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Dec 27, 2012 -> 01:51 PM) Avery Johnson...He Gone D-Will force another coach out? More like unrealistic expectations for a roster with sub-par talent just because they are in Brooklyn and have a crazy owner. When your second-best player is a toss-up between Joe Johnson, Brook Lopez, and Gerald Wallace, and Deron is playing gimpy, you have a problem. Edited December 27, 2012 by Steve9347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 27, 2012 -> 02:33 PM) More like unrealistic expectations for a roster with sub-par talent just because they are in Brooklyn and have a crazy owner. When your second-best player is a toss-up between Joe Johnson, Brook Lopez, and Gerald Wallace, and Deron is playing gimpy, you have a problem. Needs more CJ Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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