December 8, 201312 yr Considering pundits, analysts, fans (myself included) and players were all saying Gordon had multiple MVPs in his future, I'll hold off on Semien hype.
December 8, 201312 yr QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Dec 7, 2013 -> 07:07 PM) Jose, correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like you're referring to how Beckhamn sped through the minors in less than 2 full seasons and then fans creamed their jeans thinking he was ready for the big league club but really wasn't ready. Not putting words in your mouth. This really is similar in the sense that like Beckham in 09, it appears Semien in ready to make the jump but a look at his AAA stats after his promotion from AA dictate he should have more time so we don't have a repeat of what happened to Beckham. I think Semien will have a place on this team in the near future but let's not rush him since there's players to be moved first and its not like the Sox are expected to be all that competitive with the current roster at this time. http://m.bbref.com/m?p=XXminorsXXplayer.cg...p;t=all_batting QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 7, 2013 -> 07:59 PM) Considering pundits, analysts, fans (myself included) and players were all saying Gordon had multiple MVPs in his future, I'll hold off on Semien hype. StRoostifer, yes I am. He was ready, but not for a full season, as was clearly proven the following year. Quinarvy, that's exactly my point. We were all high on Beckham and now everyone wants him traded.
December 8, 201312 yr QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 7, 2013 -> 08:47 PM) StRoostifer, yes I am. He was ready, but not for a full season, as was clearly proven the following year. Quinarvy, that's exactly my point. We were all high on Beckham and now everyone wants him traded. I was high on Beckham so I'm in that group too. Better to take a slower approach with Semien. Edited December 8, 201312 yr by StRoostifer
December 8, 201312 yr Agreed with above. Have Semien dominate AAA for a season before we annote him the next big thing.
December 8, 201312 yr QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 7, 2013 -> 05:23 PM) Remember how Gordon Beckham put up very good numbers during his rookie season? We were treating him like Semien is being treated now. Then he came out and became the Gordon Beckham we all know today. Beckham got "figured out" just like Semien will. QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 7, 2013 -> 05:44 PM) They're two different players with two different pedigrees. You should just abort this argument after your initial claim was Semien's minor league numbers weren't any good. These quotes summarize everything. Abreu, your initial claim was Semien's numbers weren't very "attractive", then switched to a "Beckham got figured out just like Semien will" argument, which makes no sense as raBBit highlighted above. Now you're trying to pull a complete 180 and pretending to act like you meant the reason Semien will get figured out is because he's being rushed like Beckham, which is a totally different discussion from the one we were having. Stick to your guns here, you said Semien was "overrated" based on his not very attractive stats. Do you still stand by that claim?
December 10, 201312 yr Author So with today's news, the picture becomes a little clearer: Eaton Semien? Abreu Dunn Garcia Viciedo Alexei Phegley Beckham/2B FA
December 10, 201312 yr QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 02:15 PM) So with today's news, the picture becomes a little clearer Still think a lot will change before March.
December 10, 201312 yr As of now, I would say: vs RHP Eaton 8 De Aza 7 AGarcia 9 Abreu 3 Dunn DH Ramirez 6 Beckham 4 Gillaspie 5 Phegley 2 vs LHP Eaton 8 Beckham 4 AGarcia 9 Abreu 3 Konerko DH Viciedo 7 Ramirez 6 Gillaspie 5 Phegley 2 Bench: Flowers, LGarcia
December 10, 201312 yr QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 04:52 PM) As of now, I would say: vs RHP Eaton 8 De Aza 7 AGarcia 9 Abreu 3 Dunn DH Ramirez 6 Beckham 4 Gillaspie 5 Phegley 2 vs LHP Eaton 8 Beckham 4 AGarcia 9 Abreu 3 Konerko DH Viciedo 7 Ramirez 6 Gillaspie 5 Phegley 2 Bench: Flowers, LGarcia Kepp should play against LHP. A Gillaspie / Kepp straight platoon should actually be fairly productive, assuming Kepp remembers how to hit a baseball. That said, if a real 3B becomes available, I don't think twice.
December 10, 201312 yr Told Sox still hoping to leave meetings with a significant upgrade at 3B. It's getting real. Lots of names exchanged.
December 10, 201312 yr QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:18 PM) Told Sox still hoping to leave meetings with a significant upgrade at 3B. It's getting real. Lots of names exchanged. That is what I like to hear. But do we trade Quinatana then? Do you know what names have been exchanged?
December 10, 201312 yr Author QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:18 PM) Told Sox still hoping to leave meetings with a significant upgrade at 3B. It's getting real. Lots of names exchanged. How significant we talking?
December 10, 201312 yr QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 12:31 AM) I wish they would leave with a significant upgrade at Catcher. This. But I'll take a 3B too.
December 10, 201312 yr QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:38 PM) This. But I'll take a 3B too. Ill sit through another year of the black hole at catcher if they keep making moves like they have been
December 10, 201312 yr QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:36 PM) How significant we talking? Likely not a casual fan loving blockbuster but consistent with the plan: cost controlled impact with high upside that's an improvement over a Gillaspinger 3B.
December 10, 201312 yr QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:28 PM) That is what I like to hear. But do we trade Quinatana then? Do you know what names have been exchanged? Highly doubtful but possible for a game-changing deal.
December 11, 201312 yr QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:45 PM) Likely not a casual fan loving blockbuster but consistent with the plan: cost controlled impact with high upside that's an improvement over a Gillaspinger 3B. Good stuff. And lol, Gillaspinger.
December 11, 201312 yr QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:46 PM) Highly doubtful but possible for a game-changing deal. Do they prefer what side the third baseman hits? Cost controlled third baseman that come to mind are Brett Lawrie, Nolan Arenado. Can you not give names?
December 11, 201312 yr QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 07:45 PM) Likely not a casual fan loving blockbuster but consistent with the plan: cost controlled impact with high upside that's an improvement over a Gillaspinger 3B. Which begs the question, what's with the Uribe rumors? Gillaspuribe?
December 11, 201312 yr QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 03:45 PM) Likely not a casual fan loving blockbuster but consistent with the plan: cost controlled impact with high upside that's an improvement over a Gillaspinger 3B. Give me Lowrie or give me death!!!
December 11, 201312 yr QUOTE (Vance Law @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 06:49 PM) Which begs the question, what's with the Uribe rumors? Gillaspuribe? Gillespengibe?
December 11, 201312 yr If we can find a way to get lawrie without giving up Quintana.... wow. Lawrie, Abreu, Garcia, Eaton, Sale, Quintana yes please.
December 11, 201312 yr QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:15 PM) I still love Lawrie* as well. He has a very similar make up to Eaton for what it's worth. For serious, yo!
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