GGajewski18 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 10:13 AM) Could be more misinformation, but this article claims the BoSox interest in Peavy isn't what it seems, they are just "kicking the tires". They are more interested in Lindstrom according to this guy. Take it for what it's worth this time of July. Also if anyone could provide a little info on the prospects they mentioned on Boston's side. http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2013/7/28/4564...ires-jake-peavy For Lindstrom, I would take any 2 of those 3 players. Preferrably Betts and Marrero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 That's the Giants gameplan and they have won 2 of the 3 World Series. Unfortunately, the Sox play in a hitters park, in the AL, with Miggy Cabrera in the same division. Move the LF fence out 40 feet and keep stockpiling lefty starting pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I know I'm probably in the minority, but I'd rather keep Peavy, and to a lesser extent Rios, rather than getting rid of them just for the sake of getting rid of them. Yes, shedding salary would be nice, but I don't know where the salary savings can be spent that's going to be as worthwhile as holding out for top level talent in return for trades. Play it down until 3pm on the 31st if necessary--I have a feeling some team out there will cave in on Peavy, and maybe Rios also. No reason to pull the trigger before the deadline unless somebody is offering the moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 11:01 AM) I know I'm probably in the minority, but I'd rather keep Peavy, and to a lesser extent Rios, rather than getting rid of them just for the sake of getting rid of them. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 12:01 PM) I know I'm probably in the minority, but I'd rather keep Peavy, and to a lesser extent Rios, rather than getting rid of them just for the sake of getting rid of them. Yes, shedding salary would be nice, but I don't know where the salary savings can be spent that's going to be as worthwhile as holding out for top level talent in return for trades. Play it down until 3pm on the 31st if necessary--I have a feeling some team out there will cave in on Peavy, and maybe Rios also. No reason to pull the trigger before the deadline unless somebody is offering the moon. At least with Peavy, I really want his innings to go to the guys we can develop with those innings. Long term, this franchise benefits more if Johnson gets 5 big league starts in September than if Peavy does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 11:45 AM) At least with Peavy, I really want his innings to go to the guys we can develop with those innings. Long term, this franchise benefits more if Johnson gets 5 big league starts in September than if Peavy does. Agreed because it shows the organization what the Sox have in Johnson and we would most likely acquire a pitcher or 2 that could add depth to the farm. With Rios, we don't have anybody that can come in and be affective at the major league level. Although I would love to trade Rios, trading Peavy makes the most sense out of anyone on this Sox team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm 16s Cardinals continue pursuit of Jake Peavy and Alexei Ramirez with Carlos Martinez, Joe Kelly and Kolton Wong's names being mentioned #RUMORS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 11:53 AM) JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm 16s Cardinals continue pursuit of Jake Peavy and Alexei Ramirez with Carlos Martinez, Joe Kelly and Kolton Wong's names being mentioned #RUMORS Honestly, I think I would make that trade. Kelly can fit into the rotation now. I love the way Kelly pitches. Adding Martinez and Wong to the mix, and I have a slight smile on my face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 08:55 AM) Honestly, I think I would make that trade. Kelly can fit into the rotation now. I love the way Kelly pitches. Adding Martinez and Wong to the mix, and I have a slight smile on my face. I would do that yesterday 2 top 50 ML ready prospects yes please Edited July 28, 2013 by Knackattack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Yeah, I think I'd be pleased with that deal. The players alone don't make it an amazing deal, but there has to be something said for the cash savings too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 If the Sox insisted on Adams to fill their actual need at 1b, which guy would both teams swap out to include him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Cards fans seem irate at that idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 09:04 AM) If the Sox insisted on Adams to fill their actual need at 1b, which guy would both teams swap out to include him? We would probably get neither Wong nor Martinez and I think I'd prefer them to adams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 12:04 PM) Cards fans seem irate at that idea Good. That would be a good barometer for whether a trade is good or not Soxtalk has never been pleased with a trade at first blush, I don't think. It's what fans do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 12:03 PM) Yeah, I think I'd be pleased with that deal. The players alone don't make it an amazing deal, but there has to be something said for the cash savings too Well Wong can be the every day 2b when he's ready. I love Kelly's potential. The way he pitches screams high upside 2-3 starter in him. And Martinez can be a front of the rotation pitcher too. I would do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 If the Sox move Peavy and Ramirez to St. Louis, and the Sox get back Wong and other good prospects, maybe the Sox have to include a minor leaguer that's not quite ready, but potentially good...like Micah Johnson. We'll see in 75 hours or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 12:07 PM) If the Sox move Peavy and Ramirez to St. Louis, and the Sox get back Wong and other good prospects, maybe the Sox have to include a minor leaguer that's not quite ready, but potentially good...like Micah Johnson. We'll see in 75 hours or less. i don't think there would be a need for that. Cards would get a starter to fit in right behind Wainwright and an obvious SS upgrade all signed through next year. No chance we need to add to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Sox fans seems a lot more bullish on this trade than Cards fans. Maybe the trade would end up being two out of those three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 12:08 PM) i don't think there would be a need for that. Cards would get a starter to fit in right behind Wainwright and an obvious SS upgrade all signed through next year. No chance we need to add to that. I hope not, but I'm giddy thinking about a team taking Alexei's contract off our hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 We're probably giving them a lot of money in that scenario too. It's definitely not an overpay. We're improving their team dramatically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 12:09 PM) Sox fans seems a lot more bullish on this trade than Cards fans. Maybe the trade would end up being two out of those three. Then I would assume some added prospects from the Cardinals. If the Cards take out Martinez, then I could see a Blazek and Piscotty because Cards are higher on Martinez than Kelly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 12:11 PM) We're probably giving them a lot of money in that scenario too. It's definitely not an overpay. We're improving their team dramatically With this trade, there would be not one major weakness in that line up. Easy favorites to win the NL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 11:01 AM) I know I'm probably in the minority, but I'd rather keep Peavy, and to a lesser extent Rios, rather than getting rid of them just for the sake of getting rid of them. Yes, shedding salary would be nice, but I don't know where the salary savings can be spent that's going to be as worthwhile as holding out for top level talent in return for trades. I don't think you're in the minority with regard to knowledgeable fans. Trading Peavy, and as you mentioned Rios, just for the sake of trading them would be counterproductive. The SOX are better off holding onto both, than moving Peavy for a meh return. Peavy to the Cards for Martinez, like the Cards poster here suggested, would be a very meh return, and I doubt Hahn would pull the trigger on that. I have mentioned this before, but the potential trades of Peavy and Rios, and to a slightly lesser extent Ramirez or De Aza, will be extremely important to the future of the SOX. Making a move just to appease the fans calling for an immediate move would be literally idiotic. I think the SOX are better off sending some $ along with Peavy and Rios to improve the return. With the CBA, international signings and draft spending is limited, and as we all know, the SOX will likely never be one of the major players on the FA market. Picking up some cash and improving the return may result in the best return on that cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 With the way some of our middle infielders have played in the minors I would rather get Adams instead of Wong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwood5892 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Hi guys. Long time lurker. Thought this was interesting. @DanHayesCSN: #WhiteSox source has Oakland #Athletics in front of Jake Peavy sweepstakes. Peavy brought extra bags on trip in case, per @JJStankevitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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