witesoxfan Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 06:18 AM) a good reference and analogy, I pick 3b b/c I wasn't sure if it was his range or the range of the position that was causing him the problems. 3b like 1b doesn't need the range of a ss or 2b. I wasn't sure if he was capable of handling the outfield positions. as many have stated he was / is a raw product and is now coming into his own. I take that with his offensive numbers as well. it like the ole cliché, he is a blank paper with lots of talent. As I said in the other thread, don't worry about his defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 06:02 PM) As I said in the other thread, don't worry about his defense. i am not worrying but conversing. as i wrote in a post that others said about his defense and i will accept it. just plain simple conversation on what i was looking at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Anderson went 0-3 with a BB, 2K today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 04:45 AM) Range isn't the problem. It's a combination of his hands, and his arm is probably MLB average or a notch above, but it's not his best tool....if he had the arm of a Valentin, Uribe or Alexei, a lot of his mishandled/misplayed balls could still be converted into outs. I read somewhere that a decent amount of his errors are on throws where his feet aren't set, so that would be mechanics wouldn't it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 09:50 PM) I read somewhere that a decent amount of his errors are on throws where his feet aren't set, so that would be mechanics wouldn't it ? Yes, and getting rid of some bad habits he developed playing in high school and junior college...where he could get away with not planting his feet firmly or making unorthodox/athletic/showy plays that nabbed the runner by a step or two at that level but don't work against faster runners in the pros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 04:24 AM) Yes, and getting rid of some bad habits he developed playing in high school and junior college...where he could get away with not planting his feet firmly or making unorthodox/athletic/showy plays that nabbed the runner by a step or two at that level but don't work against faster runners in the pros. by all accounts, he should have at least 2 yrs of continue reps working in the minors to correct those habit. i have been thinking thou. what happens if his hitting becomes so good, would the sox forget about that extra yr and have him come up in 2016??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 10:55 PM) by all accounts, he should have at least 2 yrs of continue reps working in the minors to correct those habit. i have been thinking thou. what happens if his hitting becomes so good, would the sox forget about that extra yr and have him come up in 2016??? Yeah, when Anderson's bat is MLB ready the Sox will find a spot for him somewhere. The Sox may have to work with Anderson as he goes through defensive growing pains but they won't hold Anderson back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 With prices of impact bats being in the $75-130 million range these days, I think you HAVE to bring up Anderson if the dynamic nature of his bat and overall offensive game (running, XB hits) force him into the line-up. It's a bit like Beckham (and it was something of a mistake, in retrospect) being moved from SS to 2B to 3B in the span of two years because of the desire to get his bat into the line-up as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 06:39 AM) With prices of impact bats being in the $75-130 million range these days, I think you HAVE to bring up Anderson if the dynamic nature of his bat and overall offensive game (running, XB hits) force him into the line-up. It's a bit like Beckham (and it was something of a mistake, in retrospect) being moved from SS to 2B to 3B in the span of two years because of the desire to get his bat into the line-up as well. that is the point, rushing the timetable. I don't know, but I think the sox would be best serve if they would keep him in the minors to fully develop to his potential. he is a exciting prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 12:25 AM) Yeah, when Anderson's bat is MLB ready the Sox will find a spot for him somewhere. The Sox may have to work with Anderson as he goes through defensive growing pains but they won't hold Anderson back. It could also depend a lot on what happens with the team this year. We've been waiting for someone to give a fair offer for Alexei for a couple years, that could happen this year and rush him, or they could blow a ton of money trying to build a competitve roster this year and need to hold Anderson back until a slot opens up (or even trade him in the process). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 03:17 PM) It could also depend a lot on what happens with the team this year. We've been waiting for someone to give a fair offer for Alexei for a couple years, that could happen this year and rush him, or they could blow a ton of money trying to build a competitve roster this year and need to hold Anderson back until a slot opens up (or even trade him in the process). anderson is important to the sox, why even take a chance to rush him. the sox have several infielders who can hold the fort for a yr. letting anderson fully develop is more important. but yeah, i agree this might be the yr the sox move Alexei and that pains me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 10:35 AM) anderson is important to the sox, why even take a chance to rush him. the sox have several infielders who can hold the fort for a yr. letting anderson fully develop is more important. but yeah, i agree this might be the yr the sox move Alexei and that pains me. The white sox don't seem to view rushing people upwards as "taking a chance" with them, they seem to view it as challenging them. If a person doesn't perform, they seem to think that they'd rather have this happen earlier so that they can work to correct it rather than later at the big league or AAA level. I'll admit I'm not the biggest fan of the way they do this, but then again they run a franchise and I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 04:04 PM) The white sox don't seem to view rushing people upwards as "taking a chance" with them, they seem to view it as challenging them. If a person doesn't perform, they seem to think that they'd rather have this happen earlier so that they can work to correct it rather than later at the big league or AAA level. I'll admit I'm not the biggest fan of the way they do this, but then again they run a franchise and I don't. a very good point. let me ask, when was the last time, beside Rodon, that the sox had a top 20 in all the mlb top prospects??? it is kind of funny i was thinking this last nite after i got off soxtalk and i was just thinking. i will handle Anderson with special kid gloves. Edited November 11, 2014 by LDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 10:37 AM) a very good point. let me ask, when was the last time, beside Rodon, that the sox had a top 20 in all the mlb top prospects??? it is kind of funny i was thinking this last nite after i got off soxtalk and i was just thinking. i will handle Anderson with special kid gloves. Sale was ranked #20 by BA, and #19 by BP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 07:54 PM) Sale was ranked #20 by BA, and #19 by BP. really ..... dang it so much for where I was trying to go with. now I forgot my point. let me add as a final statement on Anderson for today, I would not change from the course of letting him develop even if he came out smoking in spring training. many thanks to all on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) Before that, you have to go back to the now-forgettable Jon Rauch in the infamous 1999-2000 class that ended up essentially being Buehrle, Josh Fogg and Rocky Biddle, who were actually 3 of the lesser rated guys (Jon Garland was the one exception of the higher-ranked ones who had a pretty darned good career). Edited November 11, 2014 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Thank you Matt Karchner #obscure80splayers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 TA is 1-1 with a 2B so far today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Anderson 1-5 today. Two games left out there. Montas' last start tomorrow night. Team stats http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=...=454&y=2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 03:43 PM) Thank you Matt Karchner #obscure80splayers You're off by a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Montas vs Appel tonight No Sox players in the lineup tonight though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Montas 3 IP, 7 hits, 4 er, 1 bb, 2 k Final AFL line- 3.52 ERA, 23 IP, 22 H 10 BB, 19 K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 09:42 PM) Montas 3 IP, 7 hits, 4 er, 1 bb, 2 k Final AFL line- 3.52 ERA, 23 IP, 22 H 10 BB, 19 K Rough outing. Walks are a little high, but he is striking out a little less than 1 an inning as a starter. Not entirely bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 04:42 AM) Montas 3 IP, 7 hits, 4 er, 1 bb, 2 k Final AFL line- 3.52 ERA, 23 IP, 22 H 10 BB, 19 K 4er last nite ....... ouch. nerves. the overall performance of Anderson, Montas, and Bassitt, I am stoke. 4 nice looking baseball players with skills. future is looking good fellas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 05:12 AM) 4er last nite ....... ouch. nerves. the overall performance of Anderson, Montas, and Bassitt, I am stoke. 4 nice looking baseball players with skills. future is looking good fellas I doubt it was nerves - final outing in a fall league, after doing very well until then? Nothing to be nervous about. More likely just had an off day, or maybe lost focus a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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