Chisoxfn Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 No idea what happens the rest of the season, but if Jay looks this calm in the offense, zero reason to cut him. I still think if Cook is their in the 2nd (or someone else) whom you really like, you draft and groom and we can't ignore the QB position (it isn't like Jay is 26) but thus far, Gase and Cutler look to be doing some good things and Jay is becoming far less a problem. Is he elite, no, but you can absolutely win and go deep if you had a good team around him (the way he's played thus far...especially given the struggles / injuries to his receivers and line). But he's got to do this for a while longer to just completely ignore QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Hypothetical: Say we just passed the golden era of football, with elite QBs running their own offenses slinging the ball all over the field, and everyone goes back to the St. Louis Rams set up. RBs start becoming elite items. Run and D. Would you lost some interest in football? This year has been thoroughly unenjoyable for me, and the QB play has been largely bad. If it keeps up like this I'm not sure how it will hold up. Now, I know it's probably a blip, just a hypothetical if the "passing league" trend reverses. WRs are more talented than ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Schefter on Twitter: "Here we go: 49ers trading TE Vernon Davis to Denver for 6th- and 7th-round picks this year, and a 6th-round pick in 2017, sources tell ESPN." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Good move by Niners. They drastically need an upgrade at TE and they can deal with the pains of getting an offensive player up to speed in a new system during the course of the season (as they can afford some negative plays given they are pretty much playoff locks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 So, Caplan saying they are just "swapping positions" for 6th and 7th picks, which makes zero sense. I can't find article saying anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 03:27 PM) I THINK its 13mill but I'm not positive. Fairly certain it's above 10 though. At this point I think it would be foolish to cut him and go after a QB in this meh class. This team is a lot closer to competing with Jay Cutler than with a rookie QB. Bonuses are already paid. If they cut him as designate as a June 1st Cut, he'd cost $5 million in 2016, and $5 million in 2017. No reason to release him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 04:12 PM) Hypothetical: Say we just passed the golden era of football, with elite QBs running their own offenses slinging the ball all over the field, and everyone goes back to the St. Louis Rams set up. RBs start becoming elite items. Run and D. Would you lost some interest in football? This year has been thoroughly unenjoyable for me, and the QB play has been largely bad. If it keeps up like this I'm not sure how it will hold up. Now, I know it's probably a blip, just a hypothetical if the "passing league" trend reverses. WRs are more talented than ever. The honest answer from me...and this will sound meatball... is that the NFL product is nothing what I grew up loving. It is not even close. They eliminated the gladiator element to the game. I used to love watching the hits coming from all over the field. The Qb's were running for the lives. The receivers had the fear of god in them coming across the middle. There is technicalities constantly being discussed and reviewed in game. The announcers blow. The all around physicality is lacking at every position. Its all about technique now and less about being a monster and having technique to go with it. The NFL believes they can do no wrong and that they are invincible and its bulls***. The game is changed because they were afraid of being sued by everyone that has played before and they likely didnt do much to protect these guys other than taking away the quality of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 04:30 PM) So, Caplan saying they are just "swapping positions" for 6th and 7th picks, which makes zero sense. I can't find article saying anything like that. @AdamSchefter 29m29 minutes ago So just to be clear in Vernon Davis trade: SF and Denver swapping 6th and 7th round picks in 2016, and 49ers get Denver's 6th in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 04:41 PM) @AdamSchefter 29m29 minutes ago So just to be clear in Vernon Davis trade: SF and Denver swapping 6th and 7th round picks in 2016, and 49ers get Denver's 6th in 2017. Doesn't this give Denver better position on 6th and 7th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 04:43 PM) Doesn't this give Denver better position on 6th and 7th? Im assuming it means that SF is getting Denvers 6th and Denver is getting SF's 7th this year and then SF is just getting Denvers 6th next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Yeah, that deal doesn't make much sense for the 9ers. Giving up Davis and going from near the top of the 6/7 rounds to near the bottom of said rounds for a 6th round pick 2 years from now. That can't be right. Maybe we're reading it wrong and its.. Broncos get- Davis and 9ers 2016 7th round pick 49ers get- Broncos 2016 6th round pick and 2017 6th round pick. Still doesn't seem like a good deal for the 49ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 03:41 PM) @AdamSchefter This guy is such a dork at this time of year. I've heard him on radio shows on trade deadline day, and he's so distracted by trying to be the first to tweet out trade info that he can't even pay attention to the interview. Adam (I'm sure he'll read this), it's not that important to be first.n just get the right info out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 You guys are probably right, good call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Mortensen says Forte is out 2 games. Bears looking at Montee Ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 08:49 PM) Mortensen says Forte is out 2 games. Bears looking at Montee Ball. I hope they pass. It's the perfect time to see what you have in Langford. Hopefully he's just used as a backup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 07:52 PM) I hope they pass. It's the perfect time to see what you have in Langford. Hopefully he's just used as a backup Pretty sure Ball would back up Langford in this scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) What the hell happened to Luck? He sometimes looks lost and makes terrible decisions far too often. Edited November 3, 2015 by MexSoxFan#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 08:00 PM) What the hell happened to Luck? He sometimes looks lost and makes some terrible decisions far too often. His O Line is terrible and they said he has been playing with multiple broken ribs since week 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 09:54 PM) Pretty sure Ball would back up Langford in this scenario Yeah, you're probably right. What's wrong with Ball? He had a pretty solid rookie year. Was bad last year, and now he's unemployed. You would think some team would have taken a shot on him hoping he's more of what we saw his rookie year vs last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 08:07 PM) Yeah, you're probably right. What's wrong with Ball? He had a pretty solid rookie year. Was bad last year, and now he's unemployed. You would think some team would have taken a shot on him hoping he's more of what we saw his rookie year vs last year. Running backs are disposable. He injured his groin and never got another look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 09:01 PM) His O Line is terrible and they said he has been playing with multiple broken ribs since week 3 This. Plus their receivers haven't been getting open when I've watched them play this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Great QB play tonight so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Gabbert Era starts in San Fran. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtsoxfan Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Rumors? http://sportsmockery.com/2015/11/rumor-jet...und-jay-cutler/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 04:12 PM) Hypothetical: Say we just passed the golden era of football, with elite QBs running their own offenses slinging the ball all over the field, and everyone goes back to the St. Louis Rams set up. RBs start becoming elite items. Run and D. Would you lost some interest in football? This year has been thoroughly unenjoyable for me, and the QB play has been largely bad. If it keeps up like this I'm not sure how it will hold up. Now, I know it's probably a blip, just a hypothetical if the "passing league" trend reverses. WRs are more talented than ever. Between the lack of QB play, awful officiating on judgement passing plays, and the amount of commercials vs actual game play , it is definitely hard to watch at times. That being said, betting pools and fantasy sports work so well with football, it's not going anywhere. Plus, having games only once a week make them each seem like an event and much more important than your normal regular season MLB or NBA game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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