LDF Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 here is my first of 2 crazy mock trades. to tor shark, petricka, duke, beck, to chi a. sanchez, sean r foley, mich nay, smoral, dj davies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Awe heck, I'll toss my name into the crazy hat. Danks/Duke/Micah Johnson to LAD for Andre Ethier/ Austin Barnes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 04:19 PM) Here is an off the wall and totally unrealistic idea: Avi, Micah and Danks to SD (maybe throw in another low-level lottery ticket) Shields and Justin Upton to the Sox Sox then flip Shark to Toronto for Pentecost and Hoffman Yuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 04:54 PM) Yuck. My sentiment exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 04:54 PM) Yuck. Agree. Interesting idea though. Short term that trade makes us a lot better. Long term, with Shields backloaded contract and Upton being 100% going to FA after the season.... yuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 04:54 PM) Yuck. I don't think it's that bad if the Sox want to buy and sell. Gets us out from under Danks contract next year, but picks up Sheilds to slide into the #3 slot for a few years (albeit at a very high price). Gets us a legit bat in RF for the rest of the year and opens it for us to over pay for Jason Heyward or Upton if we like him. Shields gives is the ability to flip Shark for Petecost and Hoffman which would be a great return. I'm of the opinion that Micah will never be a passable defender at 2B and has no other position and will probably either be traded or kept too long and will have no value. I don't hate Avi at all, but do recognize his short comings in the OF. I don't think its all bad, but I'm not paying all these contracts, and I generally like to see the Sox go for it each and every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Ajp back behind the dish for the Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 06:15 PM) Ajp back behind the dish for the Sox Would we move Flowers or Soto then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 04:34 PM) Awe heck, I'll toss my name into the crazy hat. Danks/Duke/Micah Johnson to LAD for Andre Ethier/ Austin Barnes. Uhh, I'd like to cancel that idea, MMMKay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoSox2k2 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 06:15 PM) Ajp back behind the dish for the Sox Rock. Have you heard anything on what they are looking for in return for Shark or who some targets are. Also anything out there that may link the Sox to Puig, maybe if it takes Q?? Thanks man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFinn Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 04:19 PM) Here is an off the wall and totally unrealistic idea: Avi, Micah and Danks to SD (maybe throw in another low-level lottery ticket) Shields and Justin Upton to the Sox Sox then flip Shark to Toronto for Pentecost and Hoffman Good idea. Shields and Shark are similar pitchers, Shields is a little older. They are both flyball pitchers. Shields is owed $63 million over the next three years with a $2 million buy out in 2019 or a $16 million option. Shark might cost closer to $120 million by the time all is said and done (If Samardzija is traded now, he can't be given a qualifying offer, which makes him more like Jon Lester, and Lester got a 7 year/$170 million deal from the Cub—or slightly more than $24 million/year). Shields could look like a bargain over the balance of his contract, in spite of the backloading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) with the latest on the puig front, per mlb rumors. assuming on the shark trade, if yes i would do this. to la Q, Petricka, Danish or Rodon, Sunburn to chi Puig, Yimi García, Seager or Sweeney, Barnes, if it is sweeney > Holmes, if not > De Jong the players on the dodgers will be PTNL, meaning after the playoff. edit.... i would of course run this thru Jose A. to see if there are or is any problems on that front, also for his ok. Edited July 28, 2015 by LDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrlesque Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 For those of you interested in CarGo, this from Rotoworld: Carlos Gonzalez - OF - Rockies CBS Sports' Jon Heyman reports that the Rockies are planning to trade outfielder Carlos Gonzalez. And the timing couldn't be better, as Gonzalez went deep twice on Monday against the Cubs and now has 10 home runs this month. The 29-year-old is batting .278/.332/.520 with 20 home runs and 51 RBI overall this season. His injury history and contract could cause some teams to shy away, but he has the potential to be an impact bat for a contender. He's making $16 million this season and is owed $37 million from 2016-2017. Source: CBS Sports Jul 28 - 9:44 AM His contract's not great, but it's not atrocious. If we take it as a given that the Sox will be looking for a OF/DH bat going forward (not just 2015 but the next couple of years as well), there aren't many options that will be cheaper. Alternatives for 2016 (as free agents) include Upton, Gordon and Heyward, who will each get waaay bigger contracts that probably outstrip their production. Puig/Dodgers bats might be available via trade, but they will cost much more talent/prospect-wise. I would be nervous about a CarGo freefall if the Sox acquired him, but I do see some logic in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 That's I captain! But id much rather make a blockbuster for Puig depending on the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 How about this? Sox lose: Avi Quintana Micah Padres lose: Justin Upton Tyson Ross Blue Jays lose: Devon Travis Daniel Norris Aaron Sanchez Max Pentecost ______________ Sox gain: Pentecost (C of the future) Sanchez (fills in Quintana's slot and joins our plethora of young pitching talent) Upton (takes over in right) Padres gain: Norris (could slot in to Ross' slot and bring back some of the youth Preller pissed away) Travis (replacing pitiful Jed Gyorko) Avi (fresh start candidate and immediate fill-in for Upton) Jays gain: Quintana and Ross (massively improving their rotation) Micah (adequately replacing Travis in an already powerful offense) Quintana could be switched out for Shark, especially considering Upton is also a rental. And I suppose Norris and Sanchez could be interchangeable, though I prefer Sanchez. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:55 PM) How about this? Sox lose: Avi Quintana Micah Padres lose: Justin Upton Tyson Ross Blue Jays lose: Devon Travis Daniel Norris Aaron Sanchez Max Pentecost ______________ Sox gain: Pentecost (C of the future) Sanchez (fills in Quintana's slot and joins our plethora of young pitching talent) Upton (takes over in right) Padres gain: Norris (could slot in to Ross' slot and bring back some of the youth Preller pissed away) Travis (replacing pitiful Jed Gyorko) Avi (fresh start candidate and immediate fill-in for Upton) Jays gain: Quintana and Ross (massively improving their rotation) Micah (adequately replacing Travis in an already powerful offense) Quintana could be switched out for Shark, especially considering Upton is also a rental. And I suppose Norris and Sanchez could be interchangeable, though I prefer Sanchez. Thoughts? Sox giving up an awful lot. Quintana cannot and will not be traded for a rental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:55 PM) How about this? Sox lose: Avi Quintana Micah Padres lose: Justin Upton Tyson Ross Blue Jays lose: Devon Travis Daniel Norris Aaron Sanchez Max Pentecost ______________ Sox gain: Pentecost (C of the future) Sanchez (fills in Quintana's slot and joins our plethora of young pitching talent) Upton (takes over in right) Padres gain: Norris (could slot in to Ross' slot and bring back some of the youth Preller pissed away) Travis (replacing pitiful Jed Gyorko) Avi (fresh start candidate and immediate fill-in for Upton) Jays gain: Quintana and Ross (massively improving their rotation) Micah (adequately replacing Travis in an already powerful offense) Quintana could be switched out for Shark, especially considering Upton is also a rental. And I suppose Norris and Sanchez could be interchangeable, though I prefer Sanchez. Thoughts? You're way undervaluing Quintana here, that's an awful return for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 So what if we replaced Quintana with Shark? A 2017 rotation of Sale, Q, Rodon, Fulmer and Sanchez sounds nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Jay Bruce for Montas, Avi Garcia and Andre Wheeler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 01:12 PM) Jay Bruce for Montas, Avi Garcia and Andre Wheeler What's the story on Wheeler? I'd do this trade, I'm not sure the Reds do it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 07:18 PM) What's the story on Wheeler? I'd do this trade, I'm not sure the Reds do it though. Sox would have to take on Bruce's entire contract, as Reds are trying to cut costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsiskel Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 01:18 PM) What's the story on Wheeler? I'd do this trade, I'm not sure the Reds do it though. He's a reliever, low-mid leverage if he makes it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 One of Ethier / Crawford will be a White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 01:20 PM) One of Ethier / Crawford will be a White Sox. Who do we give up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 01:20 PM) One of Ethier / Crawford will be a White Sox. Only if the Dodgers pick up a ridiculous amount of cash, or John Danks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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