Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 16m16 minutes ago

 

Jeff Samardzija watched footage, thinks has been tipping pitches, particularly fastball. Credits video guy Bryan Johnson for adjustment.

Why wouldn't he say this? It's not like he's just going to admit that he's been trash for a good 3/4 of the season.

 

This is bologna IMO. I need to see an improvement over several starts to believe this.

Why wouldn't he say this? It's not like he's just going to admit that he's been trash for a good 3/4 of the season.

 

This is bologna IMO. I need to see an improvement over several starts to believe this.

 

Because today is much more in line with the rest of his career than the rest of his post ASG starts were. While people can debate the who #1/#2 starter thing before that point, the guy has always been a pretty good pitcher. This isn't like John Danks pitching a shutout.

Maybe Chris should check out his Twins starts

Why wouldn't he say this? It's not like he's just going to admit that he's been trash for a good 3/4 of the season.

 

This is bologna IMO. I need to see an improvement over several starts to believe this.

 

100 % correct for my opinions.

 

trying hard, really hard to make up for his shiiting outings, esp since the ASG.

Why wouldn't he say this? It's not like he's just going to admit that he's been trash for a good 3/4 of the season.

 

This is bologna IMO. I need to see an improvement over several starts to believe this.

Tipping pitches makes a lot more sense than Samardzija suddenly forgetting how to pitch and becoming the worst pitcher in baseball (which he has been since the ASB).

Edited September 21, 201510 yr by OmarComing25

I don't think he's tipping hit pitches so much as leaving hanging breaking balls over the middle of the plate.

Nice to see Jeff make excuses on September 21st.............he has been awful not just on the fastball.

Certainly possible, but it took him this long to figure it out?

how does it take this long for a professional to realize this? How many people are watching videos of him this year trying to figure it out?

His location has been bad for most of the year.he has thrown a lot of meatballs, but if he thinks he was tipping his pitches, and changed something, that is good too. Whether he really was or not isn't relevant. He should be pitching with more confidence.

The Jeff S 2016 QO acceptance campaign in full swing. Welcome back Jeff.

I don't think he's tipping hit pitches so much as leaving hanging breaking balls over the middle of the plate.

Absolutely. I've only watched the MLB.tv highlights lately when he starts, but most of the run-scoring pitches that have been crushed are hanging spinfests.

There's nothing in his previous stats that say "great pitcher". I can't except the hype.

Certainly possible, but it took him this long to figure it out?

Not just Samardzija, the evidently adored Bryan Johnson. October is a few days away- should have just worried about it over the offseason at this point...

There's nothing in his previous stats that say "great pitcher". I can't except the hype.

 

There's certainly nothing in his previous stats that say worst pitcher in baseball either. At the very least you can say he's been a pretty good #3 pitcher in his career.

There's certainly nothing in his previous stats that say worst pitcher in baseball either. At the very least you can say he's been a pretty good #3 pitcher in his career.

I definitely didn't predict the end of season disaster, but there was signal in his stats that he was trending downwards even early this season.

His 2015 WHIP is actually lower than it was as a Cub. His K rate is down 1.5 from his Cub days. His walk rate is down 1.5 from his Cub days.

 

He just was never really all that good.

 

Football at ND and pitching for the Cubs apparently makes your reputation a lot better than your results.

Edited September 22, 201510 yr by Dick Allen

His 2015 WHIP is actually lower than it was as a Cub. His K rate is down 1.5 from his Cub days. His walk rate is down 1.5 from his Cub days.

 

He just was never really all that good.

 

Football at ND and pitching for the Cubs apparently makes your reputation a lot better than your results.

He's walking fewer people but he's also striking out fewer people. That means more balls in play, more reliance on your defense, probably more solid contact, more home runs/PA.

 

You wouldn't have guessed from those numbers he was going to collapse in August, but you did have reason to say "please don't sign this guy long term there's a real big risk here".

He's walking fewer people but he's also striking out fewer people. That means more balls in play, more reliance on your defense, probably more solid contact, more home runs/PA.

 

You wouldn't have guessed from those numbers he was going to collapse in August, but you did have reason to say "please don't sign this guy long term there's a real big risk here".

yous guys are really looking into this, this is the kind of stuff that i would never have look at now, lets alone 10+ yrs ago.

 

all i know and can relate to is, the old time saying of giving up. he and i will stick to my assessment that he gave up at ASG.

 

i may be a minority here in my way of thinking, but i still don't think he is worth signing a long term contract.

 

but i will still give him a QO.

If this explanation regarding tipping pitches is legitimate, I would change my opinion to now, at least favor making a QO.

However, I would still hope that the Sox would not try to sign him to a long term, expensive contract.

Edited September 22, 201510 yr by Lillian

How did his splitter look yesterday? Fangraphs put out a pretty solid article 5 days ago basically saying the reason he has struggled is because he is leaving his splitter in the strikezone.

If this explanation regarding tipping pitches is legitimate, I would change my opinion to now, at least favor making a QO.

However, I would still hope that the Sox would not try to sign him to a long term, expensive contract.

Don't fall for the hype. Tipping pitches, whatever. Definitely can make the QO though cause he won't accept it.

Yeah, I don't buy it. This just sounds like PR to get him some of the potential big money. He should have taken the White Sox earlier offers and we're so lucky he didn't take those offers.

I don't think he's tipping hit pitches so much as leaving hanging breaking balls over the middle of the plate.