If that is accurate, it sounds like they really upped their initial offer, which the best news of all as it means they have less chance to maintain their core going forward. #missionaccomplished

 

Confirmed. Heyman says Gordon was looking for 20mil AAV so took a small "hometown" discount to stay with KC.

Where did you see/hear this?

 

If true atleast you know we are willing to spend $

Seen a tweet on a Chiefs/Royals Board.

If that is accurate, it sounds like they really upped their initial offer, which the best news of all as it means they have less chance to maintain their core going forward. #missionaccomplished

 

Hosmer and Moustakas are gone regardless because of Boras.

 

Cain's going to be overpaid and nearing his decline stage after two more years.

 

You're really talking about Wade Davis, Volquez or Escobar staying or not. And from KC's standpoint, almost no Davis contract will work out with how dominant he has been the last two years.

 

Or trying to keep Morales after this year.

 

Caulfield, you don't need to write "From KC's standpoint", it is assumed.

Gordon went for less than expected, thats good for the Sox.

We are really good at finishing "this close" but just out of the running. 2nd place.

 

Another White Sox niche.

 

Loyalty is a two way street. One significant consequence of not developing enough position players and having to rent them on the free agent market.

 

In a way, Gordon on the Sox would have been as jarring as Torii Hunter.

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Confirmed. Heyman says Gordon was looking for 20mil AAV so took a small "hometown" discount to stay with KC.

 

It's only taking a discount if he was actually offered more money by another team.

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We are really good at finishing "this close" but just out of the running. 2nd place.

 

Another White Sox niche.

 

Loyalty is a two way street. One significant consequence of not developing enough position players and having to rent them on the free agent market.

 

 

Haven't you told us the White Sox loyalty is a bad thing. Loyalty got Sale, Quintana, Eaton, agreeing to very team friendly extensions.

 

This situation is very similar to when Konerko was a free agent after the 2005 season. What did he do?

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We are really good at finishing "this close" but just out of the running. 2nd place.

 

Another White Sox niche.

 

Loyalty is a two way street. One significant consequence of not developing enough position players and having to rent them on the free agent market.

 

In a way, Gordon on the Sox would have been as jarring as Torii Hunter.

 

This is a funny comment regarding the Royals considering they have long been considered the feeder team for the rest of the league

Gordon went for less than expected, thats good for the Sox.

And other teams, unfortunately.

We are really good at finishing "this close" but just out of the running. 2nd place.

 

They landed their main target this year in Frazier.

Gordon went for less than expected, thats good for the Sox.

 

Rock I know you don't get the same inside information as you used to, however you've always had a good feel for the way the FO operates. What would you put our chances of signing Cespedes at. Assuming it's going to cost atleast a $20 AAV?

If the White Sox indeed offered more money, there's not much else they could do. He wanted to stay.

Gordon has been saying he wanted to stay in KC so is this really a surprise?

Gordon has been saying he wanted to stay in KC so is this really a surprise?

 

Who's surprised?

Gordon has been saying he wanted to stay in KC so is this really a surprise?

 

The longer the process took, I think the more obvious it became.

Yeah you have to remember that the Sox could NOT have had Gordon at 4/72 -- they would have needed to beat that offer by enough to pull him away from KC. Minimum is probably 4/80, maybe more. So evaluate whether you wanted him at 4/80 or 4/85 at least.

 

Maybe the answer is still yes. I think I'm on the fence at that price, especially given that there are other options.

If the Sox can lock up Cespedes, it's actually not a terrible thing. Get to keep the draft pick and still upgrade the team. Also, the Royals signing Gordon basically pushes Hosmer and Cain out of town before long.

They landed their main target this year in Frazier.

 

Fair enough, but where would you pick them in the AL Central as of today?

If the Sox can lock up Cespedes, it's actually not a terrible thing. Get to keep the draft pick and still upgrade the team. Also, the Royals signing Gordon basically pushes Hosmer and Cain out of town before long.

 

Unfortunately with Boras as his agent, we'll be saying the same thing about Rodon as well before too long.

Fair enough, but where would you pick them in the AL Central as of today?

 

Why does todays pick matter when the offseason isnt over?

Unfortunately with Boras as his agent, we'll be saying the same thing about Rodon as well before too long.

We don't have to moan about that for 6 more seasons.

Fair enough, but where would you pick them in the AL Central as of today?

Do they have to go "all in" every year? The team will be continue to get better each year. Maybe sign Austin Jackson for two years then sign Cain from the Royals when he is a FA? I like him better than Gordon.

Why does todays pick matter when the offseason isnt over?

Because Royals.

 

The guy who told us when it appeared Gordon was moving on, what a mistake it would be for them to bring him back, has the baby oil working right now.

Do they have to go "all in" every year? The team will be continue to get better each year. Maybe sign Austin Jackson for two years then sign Cain from the Royals when he is a FA? I like him better than Gordon.

 

The only reason I would like to see them sign someone now, versus next year, is that the free agent class next year is awful