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Good gawd. And none of these inconsistent 2B we should load the wagon for has any sort of consistent power (a specific weakness of the Sox in 21) either.

Pass on both of the Mets' dumpees. And I still don't see how McNeil warrants a high prospect cost anyway; even if he wasn't off of a dismal season and even if the Mets weren't overtly trying to move him.

The trouble with trading Burger is that the Sox won't get much for him. He doesn't have prospect pedigree, nor a meaningful minor league career. His AAA numbers last year were unremarkable. Sheets showed some ability last year, but it is the old small sample size, and he lacks prospect pedigree. That said, he is a lefty bat and absolutely mauled RH pitching. And the other thing is that his 2021 didn't come out of the blue... reports out of the ATF in 2020 said he had turned a corner. I'd say he's at least 50/50 to have a better year than Conforto (he has has better odds of being totally awful). Absolutely no one should have more information than the Sox on whether these guys could be the "real deal." Don't see a compelling reason to trade either of these guys. The one with the most trade value is Vaughn. But, he probably also has the most potential and most likely to be a major league regular. I think he's going to really hit. Abreu's going to be gone in a year, and we'll need the depth. The bigger issue to me is pitching.

Yep, especially as pitching isn't exactly firmed up right now. And pitching flamed out in the playoffs last year. This is good news.

Keep your paws off of Jeff Ireland!

A 30 year old late bloomer whose last 2 seasons were 1.5 and .5 WAR. Yea, but let's send Crochet, one of our best young pitchers, as a starter package. That's the way the way winning organizations do it. Peddle for Peddle. Kimbrel at most, and I wouldn't even do that.

Not paying the correct price = trading away Bassit, Semien et al for 1 year of Jeff Samardzija. Just had to get this tor starter, price be damned. There is no way this FO went into this off-season saying "Jeff McNeil and his .679 OPS is our guy" unless it was the idea that they could get him cheap and use resources elsewhere. There may be a lot of unused $ in JR's checkbook, but Rick Hahn's supply prospects/young players is limited.

McNeil for Vaughn? Good lord.

That's the logic that created the need to rebuild. Paying the correct price matters a lot.

Mets are trying to dump him; terrible season last year; attitude. Should be an extreme buy-low.

The opposite is closer to the truth. But really I think a lot of fans lack patience for young players if they are in a Sox uniform. Vaughn is the same player that he was when he was drafted. If he's that limited, the Sox never should have drafted him in that position. Trading him now would be "selling low" anyway.

This is probably the wrong thread, but here's an analysis of Hawk's term as GM. Not that bad. And it included Ivan Calderon, an important transitional player for the 90s teams. http://blackbetsy.blogspot.com/2004_12_01_archive.html

Hawk drafted Bonilla in Rule 5 after the 1985 season. Hawk giveth and Hawk sendeth away.

He was a miracle worker after the 1970 season. May he rest in peace.

His stats do look like the lefty version of Fulmer - I wonder if he spins it like Fulmer. Just cut the walks by 2/3 and we have a major league pitcher! Worth a shot.