FT35 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, JoshPR said: Exactly. Its what I'm saying... Its just funny man. Hearing the same b.s. from the team over and over In fairness...the rumors are out of control right now. They could have discussed--as an organization--to be careful with what they say to people outside the organization. The prepared quotes and winded "say nothing" responses...those could be more common now because their transparency that started this all off went "wild fire" mode. You're not hearing the same optimism that we heard earlier because you're not hearing ANYTHING of substance. Also, Hahn coming out with his statements are likely a mission of his to tone down the expectations. There was a time not long ago where the majority of his fan base was assuming we were getting Machado, Harper, Ottavino, Kimbrel, and Keuchel...plus anyone else available. Wild Fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Gload Fan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, DaGame2584 said: Relax man, the sun will still come up tomorrow morning. Will it? It's supposed to be like -60 the next few days. I think the universe has forsaken us lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I have been one of the most optimistic posters in regards to getting Manny but I really believe this morning's quotes were not good. Especially saying the off season was a success and having to point to "others outside of the org" to make it believable. So unnecessary and insulting to the fan base. Say that you are trying your hardest to get your guy and if you don't you are still confident but don't claim you had a great off season. It screams of saving face way more than negotiating through media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I suspect part of Lozano slow-walking is that he knows/believes that Hahn is under serious pressure to bring Manny in due to the way we've publicized our interest. He wants Hahn to get nervous about the blowback and bid against himself (or perhaps others) to avoid the embarrassment of not getting him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 499 pages later and people still haven't learned not to hang their emotions on every quote tweet and rumor? This thread has become a romper room. Where's miss nancy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, mqr said: Let's maybe just put the pitchforks away until there's a signing, yeah? That’s too logical. Get out of here with that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 People are reading way too much into these quotes lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, BlackSox13 said: 499 pages later and people still haven't learned not to hang their emotions on every quote tweet and rumor? This thread has become a romper room. Where's miss nancy? Soxtalk Therapy session 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) Yeah we are the irrational ones. Edited January 28, 2019 by Orlando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSouthsider2 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Another reference to the White Sox on www.mlbtraderumors.com today. Most I have seen probably since 2005 and 2006 in national recognition. Sox FO you would think HAS to be taking notice of this and realize that WHATEVER they pay Machado(or Harper or both) will be returned many times over in recognition and money coming in on tickets, jerseys, concessions, etc. I have to admit I am in the pessimism column here on all this. I have been a fan since 1956 and believe me our beloved Sox have DISAPPOINTED me MANY times. Until I see him standing there in a Sox uniform being announced by Hahn, I will have to be pessimistic based on past history. Prove me wrong, JR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Orlando said: LOL LOL LOL Again, what else is he supposed to say given that question? Publicly acknowledging that they need him as bad as they do would only make Hahn's job more difficult. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Orlando said: LOL LOL LOL Kaplan asking the tough questions lol... This morning has been quite strange indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaPG Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Orlando said: Yeah we are the irrational ones. Ok, now I beleive Hahn doesn’t beleive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesterday333 Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Orlando said: LOL LOL LOL That's the worst quote I have seen. He has to know that isn't true right? I guess what is he suppose to say? "yeah theyre gonna revolt if we don't get him..." that would give Lazano so much power in negotiations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, mqr said: Again, what else is he supposed to say given that question? Publicly acknowledging that they need him as bad as they do would only make Hahn's job more difficult. Look at his quotes at SoxFest. Leaps and bounds better than this. Acknowledge the fact that fans will be disappointed but ensure us that you will continue to strive to make moves. Not that hard. Don't pretend that Sox fans will be fine. They wont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said: Soxtalk Therapy session 😂 Lmao! Once Manny signs this thread should be donated for psychological evaluation. Much can be learned from this thread. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 500 pages more and he'll sign 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSouthsider2 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Orlando said: LOL LOL LOL As I mentioned in a previous post, I am a little pessimistic how this is going because of past history of Sox disappointments. If Hahn knows we are NOT signing Machado and says something like the fans "will be fine" then he is in a dream world. BUT, as a couple other fans have pointed out, negotiations probably are still on going. If Hahn came out and said something like "Yes, the fans will lynch me and we could end up with zero attendance", then Lozano would be going "kaching" and another $25 million would be added to Machado's asking price. I hope we sign MM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just now, BlackSox13 said: Lmao! Once Manny signs this thread should be donated for psychological evaluation. Much can be learned from this thread. LOL amen to that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSouthsider2 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: Lmao! Once Manny signs this thread should be donated for psychological evaluation. Much can be learned from this thread. LOL. Probably true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, mqr said: Again, what else is he supposed to say given that question? Publicly acknowledging that they need him as bad as they do would only make Hahn's job more difficult. He might not have been ready for that one but the best answer he could have given was "Our fans will be happy if we put a championship team on the field, we do feel Machado can be a part of that but our fans will not be satisfied until we reach that goal". 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capital G Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 None of these quotes change anything to me. What's he supposed to say? "If we don't get Machado we will have wasted money/players on our current acquisitions and our fan base will revolt!". That's just more fuel for MM's camp to ask for more money. He has to act like it will be all good if we don't sign him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, yesterday333 said: That's the worst quote I have seen. He has to know that isn't true right? I guess what is he suppose to say? "yeah theyre gonna revolt if we don't get him..." that would give Lazano so much power in negotiations. Do we really believe that despite what Rick says, Lozano isnt smart enough to know that the fans will revolt? He has leverage already. Edited January 28, 2019 by Orlando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, xSouthsider2 said: As I mentioned in a previous post, I am a little pessimistic how this is going because of past history of Sox disappointments. If Hahn knows we are NOT signing Machado and says something like the fans "will be fine" then he is in a dream world. BUT, as a couple other fans have pointed out, negotiations probably are still on going. If Hahn came out and said something like "Yes, the fans will lynch me and we could end up with zero attendance", then Lozano would be going "kaching" and another $25 million would be added to Machado's asking price. I hope we sign MM. The Sox are at the table. We should all be thrilled. Actually signing means nothing. That said, I don't know how people conclude anything from these quotes. Hahn is actually complementing the fan base for not acting like a psycho took out their entire family if Manny goes elsewhere. I doubt anything has changed regarding his status since Thursday or Friday when it was assumed he would be a Soxfest surprise. Besides, everyone said Levine was full of crap when he mentioned the Sox offer. If SD suddenly enters the fray, doesn't it mean an 8 year $250 million offer really isn't on the table and Levine was probably correct? If they were willing to go there, why wouldn't they have been in since the beginning? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 25 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Kool aid? Ok. Let me know when you're ready to step off the wambulance. If you think the sox are suddenly out of this then you're more delusional than I thought. Lol wambulance? What are you 10? So stating my opinion is a wambulance lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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