Sox80 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, SoxBlanco said: Do you actually think it’s possible that we don’t make any more moves this offseason? I didn't say that. I hope they make good moves. If it doesn't happen.I don't feel like hearing the excuses is all I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 The off-season had me excited to here we go again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 much rather the Sox go after one of Marte or Nimmo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Let's monkey around with Nimmo. I would love to see what he can do for a full season. He has earned a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, Chisox378 said: Let's monkey around with Nimmo. I would love to see what he can do for a full season. He has earned a shot. Monkey around? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Orlando said: Monkey around? 😆 Lol.... Ok let's nab that fish 🐟! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, DirtySox said: Makes sense - Hahn routinely "sells" (at a massive discount) international bonus money to the Rangers; he makes Rule 5 picks for he Rangers. Maybe its time for Daniels to do him a solid - Mazara for the international money that Hahn won't use anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, bmags said: hmm, lotta stuff not to like in here https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/nomar-mazara-608577?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb Average exit velo of 89.1mph. Tsutsugoh was 92mph in NPB last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Eminor3rd said: What about him is productive? He's been a below average hitter all four years of his career. He's been a below average defender all four years of his career. He's had over 2000PA to improve and had essentially the same season every year. He's a post-hype change-of-scenery candidate. To acquire him now for anything significant would be embarrassingly bad. To acquire him for next-to-nothing would be fine except that it would be settling for a sub-1 WAR player as a RF upgrade in early December when several WAY better players are still available in FA. It’s that second paragraph that’s the problem. Why in the fuck are we settling on a post hype guy for RF (with two years of control no less) this early in the offseason and after we missed out on our big SP target? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Stealth G.O.A.T. said: Against RHP he is. That’s what’s productive. He’s not my choice and I’m not in love with the move (If finalizes). But if used correctly and platooned, he could be productive. That’s just the truth based on the numbers. He’s been just above league average as a hitter against RHP in his career and is below average defensively. That is not an overly productive platoon player even. Yes there is potentially some untapped upside there, but the lack of control negates much of that value and quite simply we should be aiming much higher with our last positional spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Stealth G.O.A.T. said: What’s a bad deal? We don’t even know what the deal is. If platooned with someone who hits LHP, it could potentially work. Is the goal 1.5 wins out of RF? If he’s our final positional addition, I don’t think the front office is serious about competing next year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Hatchetman said: Career OPS .799 against RHP With half his games at Arlington... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Is the goal 1.5 wins out of RF? If he’s our final positional addition, I don’t think the front office is serious about competing next year. Agreed. The fact we are even reportedly interested in Mazara is disappointing. dickerson or Puig would be better by far 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Is the goal 1.5 wins out of RF? If he’s our final positional addition, I don’t think the front office is serious about competing next year. It’s flat out embarrassing. I cannot love this comment enough. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, HahnsKiddieTable said: It’s flat out embarrassing. I cannot love this comment enough. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Is the goal 1.5 wins out of RF? If he’s our final positional addition, I don’t think the front office is serious about competing next year. I really think they are so caught up in making sure they get a lefty outfielder that they have a bit of tunnel vision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) Steele inclusion is being shot down. Also suggests we're not going wild for Madbum, Ryu, Keuchel https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2019/12/10/21005220/aside-from-nomar-mazara-rumor-nothing-doing-for-white-sox-at-winter-meetings Edited December 11, 2019 by Princess Dye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I hope this doesn’t happen. I don’t absolutely hate it if the return is minimal, but it’s just such a bleh move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 45 minutes ago, Fuagman said: Credit to @crazedrat1: Career per 162: Nomar Mazara, 25, L/L .261 24 93 .320 .435 .754 2 years team control Nicholas Castellanos, 28, R/R .277 22 84 .326 .471 .797 Seeking 4 to 5 years 18 to 20mm per LF Marcell Ozuna, 29, R/R .272 26 94 .329 .455 .784 3 to 4 yr @ 15mm to 18mm per i don’t get why everyone is freaking out Maybe check what parks those first two guys have played at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 43 minutes ago, fathom said: 3 team trade with Mets and Pirates with Sox getting Nimmo, Mets get Marte and Pirates get good prospects That’s exactly what I would envision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurhamStance Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Princess Dye said: Steele inclusion is being shot down. Also suggests we're not going wild for Madbum, Ryu, Keuchel https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2019/12/10/21005220/aside-from-nomar-mazara-rumor-nothing-doing-for-white-sox-at-winter-meetings Can we please stop considering DVS a credible source. He knows nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Princess Dye said: Steele inclusion is being shot down: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2019/12/10/21005220/aside-from-nomar-mazara-rumor-nothing-doing-for-white-sox-at-winter-meetings Between Hahn’s and Renteria’s comments and Hahn making a joke about the media talking to Jon Daniels, it makes me think Mazara is going to happen tomorrow. Yucky. 🤢 Edited December 11, 2019 by Moan4Yoan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said: Between Hahn’s and Renteria’s comments and Hahn making a joke about the media talking to Jon Daniels, it makes me think Mazara is going to happen tomorrow. Yucky. 🤢 Yup, this is happening tomorrow. Jon Daniels’ quote has White Sox written all over it from their rumored interest in Mazara last season. According to Jeff Wilson of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, the Rangers "expect to complete a trade" involving Nomar Mazara "as soon as Wednesday." The St. Louis Cardinals, Arizona Diamondbacks and Chicago White Sox are trying to land him. “We explored trades last year, but we didn’t find what I felt was a good fit for us,” Daniels said. “There have been certain clubs dating back to previous periods, we kind of know where fits might be.” Edited December 11, 2019 by Moan4Yoan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said: Between Hahn’s and Renteria’s comments and Hahn making a joke about the media talking to Jon Daniels, it makes me think Mazara is going to happen tomorrow. Yucky. 🤢 Hopefully Hahn is drunk, either way I’m not staying awake to see if this goes down tonight. Hoping and praying I see him traded to the Marlins when I wake up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Don't worry guys, Frank'll fix him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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