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8 minutes ago, hogan873 said:

Strange behavior indeed.  On the very slight (like Jim Carey "So you're saying there's a chance") chance he's right, it would be funny to see Stone and the others who vehemently denied it respond.

I actually think Stone would know.

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FWIW David Kaplan was on espn1000 yesterday saying Rockies have been talking with the Cubs about a NA/Bryant trade. And that NA has been talking with Chatwood about what playing in Chicago is like. 

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19 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said:

I actually think Stone would know.

I'm sure he knows more than MLBIntel.  Hell, I think we know more than MLBIntel.

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20 minutes ago, Bad Hombre said:

FWIW David Kaplan was on espn1000 yesterday saying Rockies have been talking with the Cubs about a NA/Bryant trade. And that NA has been talking with Chatwood about what playing in Chicago is like. 

A Bryant/Arenado trade makes absolutely no sense for both sides. 

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1 minute ago, GermanSoxFan said:

A Bryant/Arenado trade makes absolutely no sense for both sides. 

Well, Bryant would lower the Rockies payroll over time, and a more possible asset to trade at a deadline. NA, would give the Cubs a longer term asset.

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but it does - especially depending on what else the rockies may be getting. Bryant can play the OF which allows McMahon to slot in at 3B and Hampson/Rodgers to play 2B this year. Then next year when Murphy is gone, McMahon slots in at 1B, Hampson at 2b, and Rodgers at 3B. Bryant mans the outfield with Hilliard, Dahl, Blackmon. It gives their lineup greater flexibility both financially and with the lineup card. 

 

Still not the best trade they can make though - they should be looking to get two SP arms that are groundball guys out of Arenado. Or 1SP prospect and ridding of the Desmond contract that has 3yr/$40mm remaining on it. If they do that they legit can be back to a 90-95 win team. Marquez, Gray, newly acquired SP, Freeland + that lineup + an extra $45mm in payroll flexibility. 

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The Rockies are the best bet in Vegas currently for the team win totals. Especially because it's likely to drop another few games if they get rid of Arenado for SP -- which to me actually makes their team better. Tough to lose an Arenado and get better, but i think that's exactly where the Rockies are. 

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56 minutes ago, Cashman said:

Well, Bryant would lower the Rockies payroll over time, and a more possible asset to trade at a deadline. NA, would give the Cubs a longer term asset.

The Cubs are the ones looking to shed payroll though.

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1 hour ago, soxfan2014 said:

The Cubs are the ones looking to shed payroll though.

Exactly, the Cubs want to shed payroll and the Rockies would want long term assets.

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30 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said:

Exactly, the Cubs want to shed payroll and the Rockies would want long term assets.

You're right. The Cubs need to shed payroll and NA's salary is huge. Much larger than Bryant's. Maybe they throw Q in the deal and others to get the payroll down - just like what the Red Sox did. But they would probably have to get a 3rd team involved. I just don't see Colorado taking all of that on.

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6 minutes ago, smellysox said:

You're right. The Cubs need to shed payroll and NA's salary is huge. Much larger than Bryant's. Maybe they throw Q in the deal and others to get the payroll down - just like what the Red Sox did. But they would probably have to get a 3rd team involved. I just don't see Colorado taking all of that on.

Yeah they'd pretty much have to dump Chatwood. And Lester's deal comes off the books after this season.

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5 hours ago, GermanSoxFan said:

A Bryant/Arenado trade makes absolutely no sense for both sides. 

Not sure how that would fix the Cub payroll issue but the little boys in blue have done almost nothing.

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The goof is now saying if Arenado is not on the Sox by opening day, he'll delete his twitter. Now I can't wait for March 26 for 2 reasons.

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7 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:

The goof is now saying if Arenado is not on the Sox by opening day, he'll delete his twitter. Now I can't wait for March 26 for 2 reasons.

He literally said by the time spring training games start, yesterday lol

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22 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said:

He literally said by the time spring training games start, yesterday lol

Oops. Read it wrong, my bad. You're right

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22 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:

Oops. Read it wrong, my bad. You're right

Oh its all good. Thought maybe you meant he said that today. He keeps pushing the date farther and farther.

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2 minutes ago, HahnsKiddieTable said:

Lol that MLB intel twitter handle has turned into realMAGABABES page now 😂😂😂

Say Clown McClownface now but is temporarily suspended.

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On 2/13/2020 at 1:22 PM, Cashman said:

Yes, but they also have offered Bryant long term contracts. I think their payroll issue is probably Heyward.

Wonder if the Cubs would’ve given up Quintana/Heyward for a bag of balls as a pure salary dump.

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1 hour ago, NCsoxfan said:

Wonder if the Cubs would’ve given up Quintana/Heyward for a bag of balls as a pure salary dump.

Quintana no, they could have not picked up his option if they wanted salary relief that badly.

Heyward yes.

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19 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Quintana no, they could have not picked up his option if they wanted salary relief that badly.

Heyward yes.

Was thinking as a package deal. Quintana probably not enough to entice someone to absorb Heyward’s contract 

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15 minutes ago, NCsoxfan said:

Was thinking as a package deal. Quintana probably not enough to entice someone to absorb Heyward’s contract 

That’s correct. 

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