BlackSox13 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I have no interest at all in Fowler and not much in Castro unless the price was reasonable and went along with the idea of being a platoon partner with Flowers. Also want to point out that Fowler is set for a raise from his 2014 salary of 7.35M, this is his last arbitration year before becoming a FA after 2015 and Bora's is his agent. Fowler likely goes to FA so he'd be a one year rental at a reportedly "high" cost. No thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Have heard from multiple people about how much "Rick Hahn loves Jason Castro". Trade candidate. #WhiteSox #Astros https://twitter.com/ChrisCotillo/status/542490017310863360 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 05:49 PM) Have heard from multiple people about how much "Rick Hahn loves Jason Castro". Trade candidate. #WhiteSox #Astros https://twitter.com/ChrisCotillo/status/542490017310863360 He's essentially Tyler Flowers with a better glove and probably won't come cheap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 If he comes cheap then I'm all for it. Unfortunately that's not going to be the case so I'd rather use our resources elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) If you look around the league, there really isn't a whole bunch of talented catchers out there. Castro would be an upgrade over Flowers, but I also feel we need to use our resources elsewhere and focus on acquiring another outfielder. It seems as if there are multiple talented outfielders available via trade and still on the free agent market. l'm thinking Hahn will focus on this right now. I also have a hunch that Hahn would like to add one more reliever to the pen before its all said and done. Stay tuned... Hahn said there was more on the table that is currently in the works. Edited December 10, 2014 by GreatScott82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Pleaseeee get an upgrade at catcher. I want Castro very badly. I would not hesitate to give up a decent minor league piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Does anyone like Rock or Bucket have any idea what it would take to acquire Castro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 09:09 PM) Does anyone like Rock or Bucket have any idea what it would take to acquire Castro? Hahn was pushing for Castro last winter, but the asking price was Quintana. With the season Castro is coming off of, the White Sox may be able to get him for a top 11-20 prospect and perhaps another midlevel prospect. I really don't see Houston being interested in Danks or Viciedo. Any deal for Castro would have to be via the farm system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 07:14 PM) Hahn was pushing for Castro last winter, but the asking price was Quintana. With the season Castro is coming off of, the White Sox may be able to get him for a top 11-20 prospect and perhaps another midlevel prospect. I really don't see Houston being interested in Danks or Viciedo. Any deal for Castro would have to be via the farm system. Not sure I feel comfortable emptying the farm again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 09:16 PM) Not sure I feel comfortable emptying the farm again.... Agreed. Unless we are swapping a top prospect for a young MLB ready OF or C that is under contract control for 4+ years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I feel like bringing this thread back to the top will help which ever mod in a few days when Hahn adds him. Any idea what type of package it would take to get Castro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 06:51 PM) I feel like bringing this thread back to the top will help which ever mod in a few days when Hahn adds him. Any idea what type of package it would take to get Castro? Yea man I'm trying to figure out which pieces he'll use too. I'm sure he'll somehow get it done with say Hawkins & Zaleski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 .651 OPS with over 150 strikeouts. I hope whatever they give up, it isn't much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 07:02 PM) .651 OPS with over 150 strikeouts. I hope whatever they give up, it isn't much. That's horrible. Let's take our time and find the right catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 07:02 PM) .651 OPS with over 150 strikeouts. I hope whatever they give up, it isn't much. .735 OPS in 2012, .835 OPS in 2013. Which one is the real Castro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 05:00 PM) Yea man I'm trying to figure out which pieces he'll use too. I'm sure he'll somehow get it done with say Hawkins & Zaleski. I could see Hawkins being a center piece, actually. I'm talking with an Astros writer right now and he's said they are looking at SS, 3B, OF, and SP. Possibly a Hawkins and mid level pitcher package for Castro gets it done? Not many OF prospects will have much of a chance within the next 3 seasons with the recent signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) I wonder if Flowers would be the back up. It would need to be a RH hitter. Castro can't hit lefties. Edited December 15, 2014 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) Good point, we're looking at Melky/Stinky/Avi for the next 3 years. Likeliest opening comes from Avi tanking. Maybe Eaton getting hurt. Edit: it would be nice if we had a hot prospect pushing AAA pitching with nowhere to play Edited December 15, 2014 by Jerksticks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 07:05 PM) I could see Hawkins being a center piece, actually. I'm talking with an Astros writer right now and he's said they are looking at SS, 3B, OF, and SP. Possibly a Hawkins and mid level pitcher package for Castro gets it done? Not many OF prospects will have much of a chance within the next 3 seasons with the recent signings. The Sox brought in 2 lefty relievers. I bet Surkhamp could be a throw in. He was pretty good eventually in the bullpen, and the Astros still can use the help there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 02:02 AM) .651 OPS with over 150 strikeouts. I hope whatever they give up, it isn't much. Agreed. I don't see the appeal. 2013 was clearly a fluky season with a .355 BABIP and a HR/FB rate that has been a complete outlier in his career to date. He hardly hit for any power in the minors then popped a +.200 ISO in '13. No surprise to see he couldn't sustain it this year. Both his K% and BB% have been trending in the wrong direction the last two seasons. I think he is better than Flowers, but it wouldn't be a big enough improvement to warrant giving up the pieces that the Astros will demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 08:02 PM) .651 OPS with over 150 strikeouts. I hope whatever they give up, it isn't much. What's the infatuation with this guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 07:05 PM) .735 OPS in 2012, .835 OPS in 2013. Which one is the real Castro? QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 07:18 PM) Agreed. I don't see the appeal. 2013 was clearly a fluky season with a .355 BABIP and a HR/FB rate that has been a complete outlier in his career to date. He hardly hit for any power in the minors then popped a +.200 ISO in '13. No surprise to see he couldn't sustain it this year. Both his K% and BB% have been trending in the wrong direction the last two seasons. I think he is better than Flowers, but it wouldn't be a big enough improvement to warrant giving up the pieces that the Astros will demand. Well that answers my question, thanks for the analysis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 One of the better pitch framers in the game. He isn't nearly as bad as he was last year but he isn't nearly as good as the year before that. A ton of potential though and the era of elite catchers is slowly dying. He is better than Flowers for sure, but like Shark, I wouldn't be trading an Anderson, Montas, Danish etc. type spect for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon_44 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Trayce Thompson is about the top level prospect I would trade for Castro. I wouldn't even discuss Hawkins for him. I really don't get the infatuation with Castro. I know he's a catcher and that improves his value but, at the plate, he's been worse the Viciedo, the guy everybody is itching to see in another uniform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 01:02 PM) Trayce Thompson is about the top level prospect I would trade for Castro. I wouldn't even discuss Hawkins for him. I really don't get the infatuation with Castro. I know he's a catcher and that improves his value but, at the plate, he's been worse the Viciedo, the guy everybody is itching to see in another uniform. i agree with you the most in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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