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🤷 I would say part of the deal here is that the ceiling for these kids is high in part because we're not even as good at knowing their ceilings. I look at Jacob Thome and I see a kid. I don't know what the man version of him will be like. Might be worse at baseball than the kid version for all I know. And then to be ticky tack about this, I think this question should probably be about Cole Prosek even though we took him with the other pick. He got paid more and I wonder whether the Sox were thinking they might not have the pool money for him if they hadn't gotten Thome under slot at 34. And then you can look at the numerous other over-slot players who may have been chosen in part due to the financial flexibility afforded by the extra pick at #34.

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But some dork on this site said he wasn’t as highly thought of as a trade target as Dieters is because of his race. When will the woke brainwashing nonsense end?

What is Jacob Thome’s ceiling?

I'm sure some of them do and for a subset of them, it basically works. I've heard numerous comments to the effect of most major leaguers are guess hitters. If you're gonna guess, you better know the scouting report inside out and backwards. I think the truth is probably a little more complicated, e.g. sometimes guessing, sometimes not, plus the guess isn't 100% selling out for one exact pitch in one exact spot.

Hagen Smith and Wolkow. The Sox won't regret it cause the Angels will absolutely not develop them.

f*** it, now I want Detmers again.

Teel might be back this season. And his latest injury was a complete fluke. You are jumping to conclusions here. What was his injury history prior to this year?

Pivoting back to this. Anyone heard anything?

One thought about the general philosophy around trading a young MLB-ready player for a draft pick/draft slot $. I think executives (rightly) see the ceiling for high schoolers taken in the first ~60 picks to be extremely high. Floor is most often extremely low and that's why they aren't just snatched 1-1. So if you look at Jacob Gonzalez and say even though his ceiling includes being a valuable player, it doesn't include being a star player, that informs your decision to get a pick instead. If you lose a deal like that 4 out of 5 times, but the 1 time you win it's by 10x, then it's a good gamble. Of course if I was a big fan of Gonzo I might want to say that he's a lefty shortstop flashing power so the ceiling might be rather high for him. I had a nice interaction with Jacob at spring training when he was signing autographs (notably, he was a minor leaguer who was often NOT asked for autographs because fans didn't know who he was or perhaps didn't care) so I basically root for him. At the same time, I also root for the White Sox to not make stupid decisions so it won't break my heart if he's an unexceptional player.

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I already told you. He is throwing 12 innings… TODAY.

I don’t see this team falling apart to that extent nor the twins / Indians going on a Red Sox like heater.

they don't have a Ryan Fuller or Derek Shoman in Pittsburgh

Roch apparently went yard a few minutes ago for the first time as a pro. Can’t wait to see a video clip!

I sure hope none of our hitters at any level are thinking that way

And wasn’t him being back in 3 weeks optimistic?

Want to bet?

I don't like to argue with results, I'm just saying to the extent he is smart, I think he appears to be smart by having a very simple plan and relentlessly executing it. Some of the stuff he was saying was basically expressing that he had just come to realize that pitchers are throwing balls out of the zone on purpose to try to get him to swing and therefore he decided to combat that by not swinging at them so much. And then it occurred to him that he should apply that lesson as a catcher. I think he is showing a really impressive talent for recognizing pitch location...I've tried sort of stress-testing the data to see if there's an inner Lenyn Sosa waiting to come out with two strikes or something, but no. He pretty much makes great swing decisions. But I have a feeling it's because he isn't clouding his mind with a bunch of "this pitcher throws slider low and away 60% of the time on 1-2 counts" kind of stuff.

I'd be down for Kirby. He's been about a 2.0 fWAR starter for the last two years, with a potential upside in the 4 fWAR range (given what he did before 2025/2026). Don't know what he'd cost though.

Wonder how long he'll go. Showcase game 🙃

They really should not be counting on Teel for much.