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Anybody got any good stories from Jacob's field?(f*** Flo) https://www.soxtalk.com/forums/topic/113386-white-sox-vs-guardians-820-510pm-cdt-cueto-vs-bieber/ I went to the 8/20/2022 game. We won. Johnny Cueto pitched a 5 hit 8.2 inning gem. Grandal got hurt on one of the worst sends of all time(more on that in a minute). Game had a long delay to start. So I was drinking and ranting about the team to my dad. I hated that 2022 team with a passion, and it's when I started creeping on this board. Felt like baseball purgatory. Anyway, a cleveland lady turns around and says "we're pretty miserable too. At least your team doesn't let all their good players walk. We never pay anybody." Then she went on a rant of her own. Rather than start a dumb argument about who has it worse I said, "fans of any team from the AL central are probably pretty miserable." Game was a pitchers duel. We were winning 1-0 in the 7th and Grandal hits a lead off double. We were all wondering why no pinch runner? Andrus gets a base hit and they send Grandal and we are already laughing at this point. Then he's out by a mile and goes down. There were two random White Sox fans sitting next to us and we were all just dying laughing. Because that play pretty much summed up the 2022 White Sox and all you could do was laugh or cry. Then I noticed all the cleveland fans had turned around and were gaping at us like we were monsters who celebrate our player getting hurt. But that one chick from earlier gave me a smile and a nod and said I see why you were complaining. So yeah, there might be some cleveland fans who think we are worse than yankees fans and it's partly my fault and I apologize haha. Anyway, we already had some terrible baserunning plays this series so we got that out of the way. Let's get Burke motivated by the ghost of Johnny Cueto and have him pitch a gem tonight!

Getz basically set 26 million dollars on fire this off season. Dominguez and Hays have been a total dumpster fire

Sir Anthony needs to start getting regular work as a set up guy. Let Taylor close. I think Domínguez will be better with some regular work in a regular role. We are stuck with him anyway.

Rockin and a Rollin Splishin and a Splashin Over the horizon, what can it be? Looks like it's going to be....a Sox victory Yay!!!!!!

My biggest draft question with a week to go. Why is there an assumption that Grady Emerson's ceiling is higher than Roch Cholowsky's?

While we all would love to see Reid Detmers pitching for the White Sox TODAY, I seriously doubt any team is ready to cut bait at least until the week of July 20th. Even then, there's a good half a dozen teams who will wait until the final weekend before deciding whether they buy or sell.

Burke is the only starter with better splits on the road, need him to keep that up and be a big stopper today. Sox are the only team in MLB to not lose 4 in a row, let's keep that goin. Happy 4th everyone! It's a bad day to be a beer.

God bless America and the White Sox.

Massive game tonight. A win puts us back in a tie for 1st…a loss puts us two games out. Is Burke up for the task and can he give us at least six strong? That will likely decide our fate tonight. Let’s fucking go and happy 4th to all of y’all!

https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/bobby-jenks-remembered-year-after-death

The latter point is totally fair. But I don’t think Getz deserves to be ridiculed for the pitching staff not being good. This team is a year ahead of schedule for many reasons that most here didn’t see coming. He also had a plan in place which relied on his young pitchers making a lot of starts. The problem is that plan has gone haywire due to injuries and Shane Smith shitting the bed. And now with a strong positional group in place, it puts what was planned to be a development pitching wise at conflict with an ability to compete in a weak AL. Getz needs to find a way to balance two competing priories: 1) continue to develop your young core that should be able to compete for years to come, 2) take advantage of a weak American League with a team ahead of schedule. That won’t be easy, but should be doable. He also has to take an honest look at what he has in-house to shore up the pitching in the interim. Who will be ready and what roles are willing to use them in. Tanner McDougal could really help shore up the bullpen, but do we want to risk his long term development as a SP in doing so? Those are the trade-offs Getz to needs to consider and act on fast.

highest road bullpen era in baseball easily according to the cle crew. just costing us time and time again. we should be 10 over 500 with this offense. these aren't usually 1 run leads they are blowing. we are talking a run an inning type s%*# on the road. era is like 8 or something after the 6th.

@Look at Ray Ray Run - What’s so funny about this post? Would be awesome if you actually shared your thoughts & provided some counterpoints instead of doing a cowardly drive-by laugh emoji.

Read this morning where Cleveland had only a single walk-off win all year before doing it the past two nights.

Weren't happy with the grounds crew or the umpires: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2026/07/04/white-sox-accuse-guardians-grounds-crew-walk-off-loss-anthony-kay-will-venable-seranthony-dominguez

Well there does come a point where if you are seriously trying to contend you simply can't keep losing games because of him.

As has been pointed out all the TJS pitchers weren't expected to be back until the second half of the season, Getz knew that ahead of time. As others have also pointed out you can never have enough pitching. The Sox are woefully short in it. But OK, here's the bottom line, if they want to stay in this Getz has to get help sooner rather than later. If he doesn't or can't that's on him (and JR) so we'll see how it plays out.

If he wasn’t ready, he wasn’t ready. Rushing Mune back is a terrible idea.

I just saw that. I forgot about that big offer. Blame it on the agent for not accepting it?

This is your opinion but it is in no way factual. The lack of goals actually increases the tension of the game. When your team is only up a goal, every opposition attack becomes worrisome. When your team is chasing a goal the desire to score becomes fanatical. There are all types of different ways to attack in the sport and understanding those philosophies and tactics really changes the way you see it. Anyway, 33million people watched last night. The Prem gets about 500k-1.5m viewers every weekend at 9am. For reference, Sunday Night Baseball on ESPN averaged around 2m. The game is popular and not just with grade schoolers.

Please explain why Contreras is less guilty than Cavalli.

Why the s%*# is this thread in Pale Hose Talk?

Lol…this team is a playoff team because of what Getz has done. The positional group is legit awesome. The pitching staff isn’t good, but has been materially impacted by injuries. Our 2025 All Star & 2026 OD SP struggled out of nowhere and then got hurt. The Sox had three top 100 SP prospects in AAA who they figured would be part of the rotation mix at some point. They took on Hicks’ contract to get Sandlin, who they also felt would be part of the major rotation mix at some point. Former top 100 prospect Drew Thorpe and former top 10 prospects Ky Bush & Mason Adams were supposed to be pushing for spots by the second half. Fedde and to some extent were brought in as placeholders to eat innings until the young guys developed. Becuase of injuries to many of the aforementioned guys, we’ve had to rely on these two more than planned. Context does matter and it’s really annoying when fans who thought this team was a lock to lose 90+ games are like “why didn’t Getz build a better pitching staff” and ignore all the factors that got us to this point.