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You mean the Kokomo Creek Chubs?

reminds me of sunk cost fallacy

94 contact% and 3 SwStr% is crazy

Which is what makes this song and dance so weird. What we know so far is that apparently no one was willing to put a decent return out there for Robert. We pick him up again on a one year option at 20 million, and again put a price tag much higher than his injury history and contract status valued him a few short months ago, and around we go again. Why? So we can get to July with him probably playing around 60% of the season, another stretch injured, and maybe a month where everything went right, so that teams can again value him as an injury riddled rental? We have done this for YEARS now. Why?

And if teams view him this way (which it seems they do), then there's no shot they're getting anything good for him right now either, even if they eat money. So you trade him and pay $10 million of his salary and probably get nothing useful - if the best case rumors are true, where the Sox get a reclamation pitcher in the minors and a comp pick worth about $1 mil is that enough for you? It's not for me, as neither the comp pick nor a reclamation project are very likely to amount to anything. You then have a hole in CF and if it was so easy to find 1.5 to 2 WAR there in free agency or in other trades, then teams wouldn't even be talking about Robert.

Seems like it’s a 24 hour bug that hit over Christmas.

It looks bad for Kansas taxpayers but still, the Kansas politicians feel overall it will benefit the State of Kansas, I find it difficult to believe that Kansas is going to lose money on the deal.

2 month rental bats don’t really bring much back. And that’s if he’s even both healthy and producing. Pretty gigantic “if.”

I'm not a fan of trading players just to trade them, so I don't blame Getz for holding out for something useful for Robert. No reason to trade him for nothing, especially if they're eating half his salary. Not sure what the Reds were offering, but it clearly wasn't enough. See if you can get anything at the deadline if he's playing well, or just let him finish the year here and move on, or if you have nothing in CF still buy him out and give him a cheap prove it deal or pick up that last option if he's good.

At the end of the day he is owed 2/30. Release him like a real big boy organization and move on.

Really, it’s been one month in the last 2 years.

I think that's where we are. The league sees Robert as what he's produced in the last 2 seasons, and Getz sees him as the post ASB guy, which means he won't be dealt unless it's for a price that nobody really wants to pay. Which is fine. I look forward to the old Robert awakening and making the league rue their miserly off-season ways.

He can play LF for the Kokomo Bay Stars

Aruba, Jamaica, Bermuda, Bahamas, Key Largo, Montego. Just a few thoughts.

It's remarkable how bad he is in a small LF at G-Rate. He is mildly useful as a bat, but his terrible LF defense means he's a 1 WAR player at this point.

I’m expecting more than 2 wins from Robert next year so his loss is bigger and harder to replace in my view. I also am a big context guy and think his value is greater than the sum of the individual parts. Him slotting into between Colson & Murakami is fascinating to me. Those guys all have contact issues, but if you put some high OBP guys in front of them pitchers are going to have a real hard time getting through the three of them without making a mistake. Again, I would trade Robert for a quality return but I don’t see the Mets paying the price needed because money doesn’t mean as much to them as it would the Reds or Pirates. And I get no joy lining Uncle Jerry’s pockets with money, so if all I can get is scraps and payroll relief, then let’s hold and make a fucking run at this thing.

I agree and disagree. I'm still in the trade him camp, although the Reds looked like the best trade partner. I don't know if they match up with the Pirates or Mariners for their Comp pick. I think the Sox could get 2 WAR in CF some way, and Robert being out of the picture forces them to get creative. That said, Robert does fill a huge hole out there, and if he does break through in the manner he's being marketed, hoo-boy, get outta his way.

Stretching for the sake of argument. He plays at the rate of an average major league player, even if it's just for 2/3 of a season.

At this point, I say keep Robert and make a run for the last playoff spot. It’s going to take some luck and a couple breakthrough performances on the pitching side, but I think the lineup can actually be pretty good next year if we hold onto Robert. Maybe bring back Tauchman on the cheap and add him to the OF / DH mix, but I think there is a very talented core in place and one that is setup well against both LH & RH pitching. Just not very excited about what I expect the Mets to offer and don’t see another obvious fit at this time. As such, let’s roll the dice and see if the baseball gods help us luck into the playoffs. Crazy s%*# has happened and I’m sick and tired of fucking losing.

Better now than in the playoffs

For the ass-eaters out there maybe

Yes, he got a couple things right and then also overplayed his hand a bit but was not a total fraud. It’s clear that whomever his source was was fired as part of Getz’s first wave of layoffs.

I was just talking about his bat, hence mentioning his PA over the past two seasons. His defense is usually good. And the reason you can’t just stretch out his WAR over 162 games is because he is always due for an injury each season.

The flu strain going around is no joke. God damn.

Robert hasn't been BAD. He's put up around 1.4 bWAR in about 100 games in each of the last two seasons, when stretched over 162 games is about 2 WAR, which is an average major leaguer. And he does have the ceiling of a 4-5 WAR player, if somebody can get him to tap into it again. I don't think it's unreasonable to think he could replicate what he did for a month's worth of games just this last year. If he worked through a hitch in his swing, or started reacting different to the way he's pitched, he doesn't decide in each at-bat he is the guy who OPSed .540 in August of 2024.