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That's been the criticism of the current Sox stadium for 35 years. That's why there are 3 luxury levels before you even get to row 1 of the upper deck at Rate Field.

Was thinking the same when I saw this earlier

This honestly isn't a terrible add. He has solid K% & BB% at AAA, steals a crap ton of SB's too. Better than many of the stiffs they've had stashed in Charlotte last few years.

Whatever Getz needed to do to get this signing through.

Burke was about a league average pitcher last year, but his Baseball Savant page is pretty mediocre - only his extension measures as a plus. He's average to below average in everything else. He's probably a #4, #5 or long reliever best case, unless he suddenly adds a great pitch or adds 3-4 mph on his average fastball. I think people are hopeful Kay can continue the Fedde type success, but I'd guess he'll be closer to what Fedde is now (i.e. a 5.something FIP). If we can catch some lightning in the bottle due to lack of familiarity with his pitch changes and turn him into a prospect or two at the deadline I think that's best case scenario. Doubt most teams are going to fall for that though. Maybe he'll turn into a decent bullpen option. Thorpe I have more hope for, as he absolutely dominated the minor leagues. Yeah, the list of guys who washed out/went to the bullpen with stellar MiLB numbers is long, but I think it's worth giving him some time to see if that changeup can carry the rest of his stuff, and what stuff improvements he can make (if any). I would agree that 2026 is likely not good for him, though.

For Burke and Kay I think their ceilings are #4's. Thorpe obviously has a weirdly high ceiling, but he HAS to be pinpoint in his control for it to happen, and so far he hadn't been able to do that. Add to that this being his first full year off of TJS, and I wouldn't look for much from him at least this year.

For Burke and Kay I think their ceilings are #4's. Thorpe obviously has a weirdly high ceiling, but he HAS to be pinpoint in his control for it to happen, and so far he hadn't been able to do that. Add to that this being his first full year off of TJS, and I wouldn't look for much from him at least this year. EDIT: Best case scenario isn't really those three, but Dutch and Smith coming back towards their ceilings and pitching like front end guys. Those are the two who can front a rotation, not the other three.

This should tell you how far behind the pen is, not isn't. We have one guy who might be a back end, if everything goes right (last year it did not) shut down guy, and none who are really the classic 7th/8th inning guys and definitely no big time lefty shutdown arms. Vasil seems to be a bridge guy who covers innings in the middle. Leasure is a middle guy. Maybe we get the big arm out of the one Rule 5 guy who can bring it, but the odds are pretty small there too.

You're much higher on them than me/baseball then IMO. The median 3 year outcome for all of those pitchers is being out of MLB baseball. Kay has literally already been out of MLB. Thorpe had a very very thin line with his velocity. He has an elite pitch though, so maybe he has a shot to stick in the pen. Burke doesn't fool anyone.

No Jerry, that is Japanese for David Eckstein.

Yes it has nothing to do with how many games the pen has given away. It has to be something else.

clown ass article and a perfect example of why legacy media is dying. You get better analysis here in one page of this thread of random sox fans.

I am happy to read this. Murakami will learn that Sox fans have a special place in their heart for players that choose them. I hope it works out for both of us, but if he struggles I’ll still have this dudes back. edit: d’oh “read this” meaning all of his comments and the responses.

I agree it is not necessary, but the owners are going to do it anyway in a bizarre attempt for the nth time to try to get a salary cap. It will work out just like all the other times too!

Is that a fact? WihteSoxDave is not enough proof in my opinion.

Even if you want to dream big on the positional side, there’s just not remotely enough pitching for an actual run.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2025/12/22/white-sox-munetaka-murikami-has-team-talking-big-but-will-this-work-out

I like things about all of them, but if we’re being honest, the median outcome for each of them is a #4

Yeah over half that current rotation should be depth or at least one in a long relief role. Maybe one as a 5th starter.

I also saw earlier that the Red Sox are reportedly out on Marte after the Contreras deal

I'm happy to get into why each guy is not a viable MLB starter (Kay has that veil of mystery at least... I guess), starting with Burke but when I'm not on mobile. I had some optimism about Burke entering last year, saw his first few starters and did a complete 180. Rest of the year wasn't any better.

Too early to count on Berroa after TJS. Let's see how his stuff bounces back first. 2-3 years ago, Walker Buehler and Dustin May looked pretty darned great, too.

Try fixing Raiders Dolphins Browns...especially the latter two. $99 million cap hit with Tua. Browns are determined to have D.Watson on roster next year. And only Moore/Mendoza at top of most draft boards.

There has been massive turnover in the bullpen. Watching Taylor, Leasure, Vasil, and eventually Berroa won't be as tragic as the group from 2024. The lefthanders are another matter entirely, of course, but I can imagine the Sox having a decent pen in games where they have the lead, and sort of a disaster pen for the blowouts. Not exactly Cleveland or Milwaukee, but not the sole reason for the club losing 100 games either.

Happy days are here again. The Sox got tired of losing. Add 2 KC Royals type starting pitcher hacks for 7 mill a year apiece and I may buy mlb.com again. As Harry would sing: "The Sox got tired of losing tra-la tra-la."