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Stating that you are not interested in a free agent definitely affects the market for a free agent because it makes it fewer teams who might be bidding that we don’t know about. It is absolutely a market distortion, the most famous agent in the sport is legendary for his leverage of unknown mystery teams in the bidding process, that isn’t credible when people like Reinsdorf are allowed to flaunt the rules. Hete is a very similar example from Aaron Judge that if it happened was absolutely tampering, just as Reinsdorf’s was. https://www.si.com/mlb/2022/11/17/aaron-judge-free-agency-mets-yankees-tampering In this context, it is absolutely undercutting his newly hired GM, who should absolutely have the authority to make player personnel decisions himself. With their cleared payroll, Getz could have had an option where he comes in with a plan to offer Ohtani $400 million and aim for 2025 when his elbow is healed and it could be a real strategy. But this owner doesn’t respect his GM enough to allow him to work, and Ng is smart enough to see that- she just quit when an owner tried to pull that crap.

It's really bad. And, it's going to be really bad for at least a half of a decade. But, there's no way in hell that MLB will allow this dysfunctional club to exit Chicago. There's almost 125 years of history here.

White Sox aren't going anywhere. So sorry.

Ramos with another ? as the Dogs go back-to-back-to-back.

Oh quit whining you little beyatches. You are only depressing yourselves. Try to think positive. Aside from career low numbers for multiple players, we ran into some bad luck and had a bullpen that gave up the ghost over and again in some tough heart breaking losses. That won't be that difficult to improve on. We need pitching more than anything. You can't bring Bummer et. al. in for the 7th or 8th inning with a two run lead and then walk the lead-off batter before giving up the lead. And we were without a legit Closer since Liam got sick.

I find it easy to root for them cause of Jose. Sox clearly thought he was washed up. He's had some really key hits and I think four homers in 9 games. Sox coulda paid Jose and got rid of TA and Moncada before this disastrous season to save $$.

The Sox really do know how to pick em ehh?

I didn’t particularly want Castellanos because of his D, but the Sox sure chose every cheap internal worse option.

Sorry, still got go with.....

I think it’s more that we didn’t sign him and yet, here we are playing slow 1B in the OF the last 3 years.

Houston Astros Starting Lineup: SS Christopher Walken CF David Bowie 3B Sean Connery 1B Jose Aberu LF Burt Reynolds 2B Chuck Norris DH Morgan Freeman C Charlie Murphy RF Jimi Hendrix Rotation J. R. Richard Robert Plant Dean Martin Frank Sinatra Sammy Davis Jr. Bullpen Charlie Sheen Joe Pesci James Caan Clint Eastwood Al Pacino Henry Rollins Townes Van Zandt Betty White

I don't care if (insert your preferred Deity here) was playing DH for Houston, I would not root for those fuckers. I hate them more than the Nationwide Jingle

Jose 12 RBI this postseason. He's a winner, folks. Go Astros and Jose!

I think the amount of time spent worrying about anything in free agency is time wasted with our rotation, like I said earlier. Without at least three more major league starters its not worth even considering worrying about how we are attempting to win.

But at least to me, it’s classic white sox safe thinking. There’s a remote chance they could get to 82 wins? Go for it! We got in this mess because we didn’t pinch every penny despite the certainty that we would have a spending problem. The 2019 offseason is my favorite example - trading for a closer, signing Herrera, they added like $50 million and traded away players for a 72 win team. That $10 million that is the difference between Anderson and Andrus or that was spent on Herrera - save that and add it to your offer to Wheeler or to the next version of him. This is not White Sox thinking, thats why I’d like to see it.

Our inability to develop baseball players who arent ready "out of the box" has been exposed. Colas likely lashed out last year because he saw how dogshit it was in our minors. I dont know anything about Colas and his demeanor but I am way less likely to give the Sox the benefit of the doubt than someone like Colas and myriad other young ballplayers who may have craved development in our org. Colas probably found that it was absolutely dog s%*# and then said he needs to be in the Majors around other ML players and coaches to actually improve as a player. Another wasted talent. Hopefully he catches on wherever he goes next.

Nick Castellanos has produced 0.2 fWAR in 2 seasons for like $30 million. I agree he would be a perfect fit with the white Sox.

Calling it a strategy is being nice about it. Dave Wilder recently interviewed by the Athletic discussed how little resources he was given. Vehicles that barely worked, etc. JR does not value Latin American pipelines and frankly, I have no fucking idea how he luckboxed his way into a Cuban pipeline. It honestly cant be because of any great effort or resources he gave his scouts. Who have the Sox developed since Maggs and C Lee from Latin America who wasnt a "ready to go" Cuban line Alexei and Abreu? I honestly cannot think of anyone. Yolmer maybe? The talk about Colas here is discouraging - maybe he is an asshole but the Sox probably did him no favors. Nor Dayan Viciedo. Nor any poor Latin who ends up in this miserable organization. It's not a strategy, it's a fucking blatant disregard for cultivating a market of passionate baseball players who can help make your organization successful. Another bullshit White Sox way mindset where we are so much smarter than everyone else because we dont spend money. Launch this dumb ass organization into the sun.

If Adolis didn’t act like a jackass on the homer, maybe it goes the Rangers way. Baseball gods, guys. They’re real. Still don’t like the ejections, but actions have consequences.

Completely disagree. Overreaction.

I listened to about 2 minutes of this interview and had to turn it off. He started off saying Reinsdorf wants nothing more than to win, and that he has a deep love for the fanbase. Couldn't take him seriously after that.

God this thread is depressing.

If the Sox left Chicago I'd simply stop watching baseball, period, full stop. I would never under any circumstances become a Cub fan.

0.2 combined fWAR his 2 years in Philadelphia for $40 million doesn’t scream the Sox missed one.