WestEddy

All of the above? Work on his mechanics, get him out of high-leverage, gain another year of control, rest him up, etc.

And the Phillies will probably have a much better idea how their system looks after the draft, and feel more comfortable letting pieces go, knowing they just drafted replacements for them.

Every pitcher has that same risk. Crochet is a guy you can give the ball to in game 1 of a series. I never thought Cease was that guy. Every fan base thinks their prospects are all hall-of-famers, and everybody else's players are all injury and regression risks. There's always a stat somebody pulls out and yells that their K/9 isn't perfect, or whatnot. I would like to see Crochet dealt. Just to give us some exciting news while the team struggles to win 43 games. But you need to pick an argument. If teams don't know what they're getting because an innings limit, then Crochet is a more attractive acquisition this off-season. I don't agree with that. But that's your argument.

The trading team could ramp him down, run him out as a 3 inning starter for a month and a half, and then slot him in the post-season rotation. He's probably the best starting pitcher available this TDL. All pitchers are an injury risk. There's no indication of a problem now. There is no risk in the White Sox keeping Crochet into the off-season. They ramp him down, and he gets more innings next year.

Being in low-A implies that there is a lot of work to be done. It's creepy when the dour mob tries to clobber someone for pointing out a positive in the system. He's an 18-year-old holding his own in low-A. That is a big deal.

I'd like to see Eloy leading off... July 31st for the Mariners.

He's the weak side of the LF platoon with Benintendi. They haven't faced many lefties in the last week, or so.

Wait a minute. You're saying that Crochet will have limited availability this season based on his work load. But then you say he's probably at peak value. That makes no sense. If he gets to the off-season with no incident, why wouldn't GMs believe that he could then be ramped up to a full starter's work load next year? Please don't say he's more of an injury risk, as you have already shrugged off Baltimore's decimated rotation by saying "injuries happen", as if they're random. Again, I understand your concern in obtaining Crochet, or any premium pitcher, for that matter. Baltimore doesn't seem to be able to not grind their starters to a nub. Chris Flexen's probably more Baltimore's speed. They can pick up 3-4 of that tier, and maybe one will be there for the playoffs.

Today and tomorrow.

Yes you do know the plan. Load up on rehab pitchers. Fix them. Sell them. Sign placeholders at positions until prospects take their place.

Of course they deserve negative comments. We don't deserve people making up BS in order to hammer on their personal narrative. Gimme negative. Leave the BS at the door.

40 future value, as per Fangraphs' prospect ratings, this spring.

Well, injuries happen, and top prospects failing in the bigs happens too. Maybe the O's sent the wrong infielder to Milwaukee.

I didn't pay a lot of attention to what the people were demanding in trade on a message board. Prospect rankings don't really mean much. We got two 50FV pitchers and a 40FV OF for Cease, traded at an inopportune time, maybe at the behest of an owner who didn't want to carry the risk into the season. If you're acquiring a top ten in the game prospect, you're buying high. If you're getting a guy just out of the top 100 with a higher ceiling, you're buying low. If "injuries happen", then all pitchers are injury risks. Like I said, an organization with a good scouting and training staff can manage injury risk. You bringing up Crochet as an injury risk indicates to me you might have concerns about Baltimore's ability to keep Crochet on the mound.

...as in "thetan"? Are you a Scientologist?

I think you're misunderstanding the situation. Garrett Crochet isn't the "price" for acquiring a package of prospects from Baltimore. It's the other way around. Maybe Baltimore will find another team to take a lesser package for their ace pitcher. Crochet looks like the best on the market, and a good team will be able to manage around any injury concerns. Perhaps Baltimore chews up pitchers like Billy Martin did during his time in Oakland. The evidence seems to support that, in which case, the Orioles should probably look elsewhere. They should get two or three, since with the O's track record, two won't finish the season healthy.

I don't think this even deserves its own thread, but Nick Senzel DFAed by the Nats. Man, that 2016 draft was awful. People complain about grabbing Zack Collins at 10. The Dodgers look like the only team that did well that 1st round by grabbing up Will Smith. Mickey Moniak, Senzel, Ian Anderson, Puk, Riley Pint. Cal Quantril has the 2nd highest WAR chosen in that 1st round.

Yeah, the whole plan, all along, was get a bunch of broken toys, fix all of them, then see if anybody wants them. The end. Why pay $15m to gamble on fixing and flipping one player when you can pay 5 guys $3m each, and gamble on more than one of them hitting?

Regardless, if he doesn't crash and burn in AAA or even spring training, he'll probably get a shot. If Lenyn Sosa can fog a mirror with a major league average .750 OPS, I think 1B is a possible destination to park him for a couple of years.

I tried to not go nuts and pick everybody, so I just went with the guys I was pretty sure would be moved. I think Sheets can certainly upgrade 1B for a half dozen teams with viable playoff hopes, but he wouldn't be that big a step up to send a prospect for. He could be a throw-in. I could see someone buying into Vaughn's recent hot streak as this being the guy he actually is. As a first rounder, he is a known entity, and his development either fits into what teams thought he could be, or could be fixed. From April 17 forward, Nicky Lopez' slash line is .268/.318/.322. That's a serviceable utility infielder. While I don't see anybody spending any prospect capital for that, like Sheets, he could be a throw-in as a lefty bench bat who slugs much better against righties. I agree on the minor leaguers, too. Everybody's got a guy in their system another team just missed taking in the 8th round, or whatever, and could sweeten a deal to loosen up that last prospect.

Not counting guys they'll acquire at this year's TDL, Sosa, Baldwin and Ramos can all fit in the infield next year. I think Elko's a way off, but if they move Vaughn and Sheets, 1B is his to lose. Julks/DeLoach platoon in LF, and Fletcher/Colas can share CF/RF. Perhaps a trade piece is ready to take CF. Benny can DH, platoon with the UI and 5th OF. There's lots of room on the 2025 White Sox.